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I'm thinking of having a flueless fire installed but am reading a lot of negative comments. Just wondering why.

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i think a lot of gas fitters feel its a step backwards to introduce open flued let alone flueless appliances into properties after we have spent years getting rid of them room sealed apliances are inherently safe as combustion is sealed from the room why take the chance on what a lot of us see as old technology
its possibly a ludite view but one which a lot of us support as we see so many air supply vents blocked of
 
Like anything in this world, easy cheap routes have there draw backs.

Positive things about flueless gas fires are relatively cheap and easy to fit.

Negative things are; you require lots of permanent ventilation which must never be blocked up. They require very detailed combustion analysis when fitting and servicing, which is time consuming and therfore expensive in the long term. You should have a CO alarm as a just in case, which highlights there is an increased risk if it were to go wrong. You will have a greater moisture content in the room.

They are designed for occassional use only, not your primary source of space heating, so this also needs to be taken into account.

The manufacturers have had these fires passed and they are suitable, but many installers feel uneasy about installing them, as they nrmaly take the wrap if anything should go wrong.

Taking into account all of the above, personaly I would consider other types of fire before going ahead with this type of install.

Foot note: We encourage all gas consumers to have a CO alarm fitted.
 
Flueless fires are a retrograde step. Why on earth do you want to expose yourself and maybe your family to an inherently dangerous appliance. THe criteria that 'make this type of appliance 'safe'
are to our minds flawed whatever the manufacturer might quote.

On this forum there is a massive amount of common sense if we in the majority dont like the things then it should make you think.

If someone told you its ok to sleep in your garage with the doors closed and your car running provided you half open a window in would you ?.

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Bad choice in my opinion - I would never fit one. I have had a few enquiries but said thanks but no thanks. You need permanent ventilation in the room it is to be sited which most rooms won't have already. Plus after speaking to a few people who have fitted them they have been set up incorrectly from factory setup and failed the FGA on their first use. As reg man says if you really do want one then GET A CO ALARM.
 
i recently fitted one for a friends relative, after hours of trying to talk her out of it i finally gave in and agreed to fit one (id sooner it be me fit it than her getting a dodgy guy in to do it), the only conditions were that she had Co alarms fitted and it was checked every 6months. it really doesnt feel right doing a FGA on these fires and looking at the reading it gives then looking at the silly yellow flame. i wont be fitting anymore anytime soon thats for sure.
 
the catalytic converter is what filters out the CO, wen you do a FGA on these fires the readings are suprisingly low and that is because the catalytic converter is doing its job correctly, the one I checked had a life expectancy of 10 years, so doesn't that make them safe as long as there is adequate ventilation ? your FGA test practically shows no CO at all.
 
I'm not a fan either,if it's not possible to get a flued fire fitted then consider an electric model if you really want one.As others have said they feel like a step backwards in gas safety,I can't think of them without picturing one of these!!

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Reg Man said:
Like anything in this world, easy cheap routes have there draw backs.

Positive things about flueless gas fires are relatively cheap and easy to fit.

Negative things are; you require lots of permanent ventilation which must never be blocked up. They require very detailed combustion analysis when fitting and servicing, which is time consuming and therfore expensive in the long term. You should have a CO alarm as a just in case, which highlights there is an increased risk if it were to go wrong. You will have a greater moisture content in the room.

They are designed for occassional use only, not your primary source of space heating, so this also needs to be taken into account.

The manufacturers have had these fires passed and they are suitable, but many installers feel uneasy about installing them, as they nrmaly take the wrap if anything should go wrong.

Taking into account all of the above, personaly I would consider other types of fire before going ahead with this type of install.

Foot note: We encourage all gas consumers to have a CO alarm fitted.
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Reg Man is spot on, but forgot to say the heat output from the is in general rubbish and in conjunction with a compulsory vent installed, a waste of space.

GQuigley67 said:
the catalytic converter is what filters out the CO, wen you do a FGA on these fires the readings are suprisingly low and that is because the catalytic converter is doing its job correctly, the one I checked had a life expectancy of 10 years, so doesn't that make them safe as long as there is adequate ventilation ? your FGA test practically shows no CO at all.
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Cats can be quite delicate. How often do cats fail in cars? Not doing much harm other than to the environment outside though.
Have you seen how much CO these fires can produce if they fail? Vent or no vent, they are not for me and I would only be checking my 10 CO detectors I installed constantly.
 
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