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Hi, got called to a regular customer who said their shower leaks when used. Was hoping it was the tray seal. No such luck.

Where the pipe is coming out the wall it's 1.5". sort of. It's the waste from the shower. I don't have before pictures but someone had fitted a compression elbow with no nut or seal and sealed it with silicone. on this section and the lower part of the pipe joining the stack is 1.25" the compression elbow had been joined to this but with a nut and seal although not the right size.

The picture I have added is what I have done. And yes I know it's atrocious, i am limited to what I can do. Where the pipe comes out the wall you can't fit a nut and seal on it which is why someone had bodged it in the first place.

There's nothing left to cut back, the 1.25" pipe connecting to the stack is a coupling straight to an elbow so nothing to cut back.

The best part is the the 1.5" pipe must be a b and q special or similar as unable to solvent weld a fitting to it, it's too loose. I have used a horrible push fit coupling as it's the only thing that will fit, the trouble is the flexi is putting too much strain on it and moves as water goes through and has caused the push fit to come off. I didn't have faith in the repair and said to the customer let me know if any issues. Which they have now done.

Tiled floor in bathroom so no access.

I hope this makes sense. Customer doesn't care if its pretty just doesn't want it leaking.

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Right bl00dy abortion!

It's entirely possible to fix.

You'll need a paint stripping heat gun. Use the gun gently to slowly heat the solvent weld elbows and gently twist & turn each component apart. When its all stripped back then you can rebuild using whatever is appropriate.
 
Right bl00dy abortion!

It's entirely possible to fix.

You'll need a paint stripping heat gun. Use the gun gently to slowly heat the solvent weld elbows and gently twist & turn each component apart. When its all stripped back then you can rebuild using whatever is appropriate.

I will give that a go. Not sure if the picture quite shows how tight it is but where the flexi is joined to the push fit coupling, it's almost touching the 1.25" elbow so I have very very little to work with. The heat gun sounds like my only option. If I could solvent weld on to the pipe coming out the wall that would be problem solved.

Looks like I'm going back tomorrow evening and starting again.
 
Army ash, the reason the pipe coming out of the wall is smaller is because it is push fit pipe. You cannot solvent weld this as it is made from polypropylene; solvent weld pipe is ABS ( of sometimes PVC).
As others have said you need a compression fitting to convert from one system to the other.
There looks to be plenty of pipe at the wall, surely you can get a nut and cone washer on there? Possibly need to cut away a bit of the soffit but that’s all (looks like the last person “cut” it with a hammer!)
Then it just a case of getting it to the lower boss, quite an easy task.
Either straight McAlpine within m-f elbow or use an elbow McAlpine and go from there depending on which fits easier.
 
Thanks for the replies.
That section that looks like it's been smashed out with a hammer is metal, I am going to cut a section out with the multi tool, it will still be tight to a get a nut on it because its close to the conservatory roof.

I'm going to try and get a compression fitting on, might have to be a 45 and repipe in rigid to the 1.25".

I don't really want to disturb the 1.25" at the stack as its already been butchered and I'm going to make life difficult.
 
Why not just cut off the existing into the stack and cap it. get the bit coming out of the wall pointing downwards and just bring it down and put into the stack a bit further down if they aren’t worried about it looking pretty that would give you far more space to play with
 
If you cut the elbow off the 1 1/4” you will be left with an 1 1/4” socket fitting - you may not know this but (depending on manufacturer of both) this will fit snugly inside an 1 1/2” fitting allowing you to solvent weld - I have done this successfully with floplast but not Marley , can’t quite see what you have there. Worth a try as would be easy and nothing lost by trying
 
Not pretty but managed to cut a bit of that metal rail out and get a compression fitting on, should have just done that in the first place. It's part of the support for the conservatory roof.

Not sure what the stack is made of but presuming it's asbestos. Not messing with cutting in to it elsewhere. The other fittings have all been sealed with something so didn't fancy trying to heat them up to redo. But I am going to get myself a heat gun for the future in case I do need to do that.

I know it looks a state but customer was genuinely really happy that it was done. I thought I had a photo of close up from the front to show how tight it is but I haven't.

Horrible looking job but problem resolved.

Thanks for all the replies and the handy tips.

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Erm I don’t think that’s going to work for long, that flexi will sag and make a trap - will probably back up and cause problems.
I really think you should try some of our suggestions, maybe next time it goes wrong - or are you planning to put a warning on that phone number!
 
Erm I don’t think that’s going to work for long, that flexi will sag and make a trap - will probably back up and cause problems.
I really think you should try some of our suggestions, maybe next time it goes wrong - or are you planning to put a warning on that phone number!

What do you mean warning on phone number? Can you explain I may have missed your point.

I knows it's not the best repair but it's 10x better than it was when I arrived. Customer fully aware its a get out of trouble repair. I'm not messing with the connections at the stack when the customer just wants to use the shower without it leaking. I'd rather renew the stack.
 
Oh right lol

Yes I have a couple of do not answers, I thought it was a dig at me at first. Not proud of that job but saved myself a bit of aggro.
 

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