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dan_the_plumber said:
Proper plumbers use copper for inaccessible pipes. They also don't use 'solder ring' fittings.
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Disagree most of the old timers use it and is spec on some commercial jobs
 
ShaunCorbs said:
Disagree most of the old timers use it and is spec on some commercial jobs
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Thanks for calling me an old timer. ;)
You are right about solder ring fittings being the norm in the past. Not sure why that was, but rarely see end feed on work done 50 years ago and I was taught to use Yorkshire fittings.
End feed was thought of by many as inferior then.
I suppose you could think of Yorkshire fittings as the faster method of soldering
 
Best said:
Thanks for calling me an old timer. ;)
You are right about solder ring fittings being the norm in the past. Not sure why that was, but rarely see end feed on work done 50 years ago and I was taught to use Yorkshire fittings.
End feed was thought of by many as inferior then.
I suppose you could think of Yorkshire fittings as the faster method of soldering
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:D end feed wasnt around back then as much well that’s what I was told
 
ShaunCorbs said:
:D end feed wasnt around back then as much well that’s what I was told
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Yes, I think that is right.
There was the heavy brass end feed fittings about. I do know homes built end of war - 1946, had end feed copper work.
I didn’t do it though!!
 
Craig Watson said:
That's strange because the same website recommends burying copper in lime chippings to act as a preservative.

There must be some reaction when the lime is mixed that makes it corrosive because natural lime isn't corrosive to copper at all, in fact copper artefacts have been found perfectly preserved in lime and they have been buried for hundreds of years.

I fully agree that copper should always be sleaved with felt at a minimum, but I've always done it on the basis it gives the copper an expansion gap and prolongs the life of the copper by reducing abrasion.
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I always understood that copper pipe must be sleeved in concrete because it then is allowed to expand and contract and not try to pull itself apart which was just painting it with gloss paint was a none starter
Rob Foster aka centralheatking
 
dan_the_plumber said:
Maybe solder ring was the norm in the past and they do have their uses. But these days they tend to be used more by DIYers.
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Yah! I've made it to the hallowed ranks of a DIYer ... Even on my last job, multi-UVCs in 28mm etc I used solder ring. Only place I ever used end feed was where look was 'all'. Just never felt comfortable with 'em. However, I did stay away from crap ones ;)
 
dan_the_plumber said:
How come you never felt compfortable with EF ?
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When I first started using them I found you had to clean the hell out of 'em. I just had far more leaks than with solder ring. In the end, you kind of build up this 'thing' in your head that convinces you you're better off elsewhere. The human mind is a very powerful tool - just not in my hands :rolleyes:

Having a continual flow of 'low cost' by proper Yorkshire fittings never influenced me one iota ;)
 
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