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Hi just wanted some advice as to what to do. I'm sure there are some excellent plumbers out there and I just wanted to ask if the plumbing for my power shower looks ok? I think it needs to be supported better not just by random bricks found in my loft! Should the corner joints be lagged too?advice please i have put the photos below

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Horrible job. Pipes not clipped and those elbows need to be lagged. There is no expansion in pushfit fittings. If they freeze they will split.

My guess, the plumber wanted to get in and out of the loft as fast as possible.

In the first pic it also looks like 22mm lagging has been used on a 15mm pipe :rolleyes:
 
Was it a plumber that did this or builder/handyman?

Did an electrician do the wiring?

Did you pay peanuts?

To be honest it looks poor, but seen much worse.

Nice piece of ply screwed down and the shower and pipework attached to ply. Job sorted.
 
What did the £300 cover?
Did you supply the shower or did the plumber?
No we supplied the shower and did all the work downstairs. (Fitted the shower to the wall and sent the electrics up to the loft) The plumber provided a seperate cold feed from the tank for the shower and all the piping in the loft.
 
No we supplied the shower and did all the work downstairs. (Fitted the shower to the wall and sent the electrics up to the loft) The plumber provided a seperate cold feed from the tank for the shower and all the piping in the loft.
Which cold feed and from where? Do you have any pics of the tank he took it from?
 
Which cold feed and from where? Do you have any pics of the tank he took it from?
No sorry no photos. the one i have sent is the pipe going from the tank on the left to the shower pump. it's just a single cold feed taken from the cold water tank in the loft to feed the shower exclusively so that if you flush the loo the pressure won't dip. A good idea from the plumber but i guess he was in a hurry? would you pay £300 for this? Not sure about how long it took as i wasn't there at the time. he left the loft hatch in a mess too!! (photo enclosed)

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With pipe, lagging, fittings etc £300 is about right. But that would be for a proper job, I wouldn't pay £300 for What you've had done. He's rushed it.
 
Good point, those showers come with a 5 year guarantee and if the tank isn't big enough, aqualisa will void it.
Didn’t realise it was an Aqualisa. Yep need all that sorting. I would say £300.00 is cheap but not for that standard and definitely need to see the tank.
 
Where has he taken the hot feed from? This should’ve a dedicated feed too, from cylinder either via flange or first tee off at a point well below top of cylinder. If he has done all of this correctly then the pump will be ok and the guarantee honoured. However all the pipework needs to be clipped for this installation.
Price seems about right, can’t really comment as depends on distances/access. I usually spend £60/£70 on materials and it takes 1/2 to 1 day depending on site. I use copper throughout usually, but in thatched would use plastic too.(but ditch plastic would not use as many elbows, just use pipe from coil- that’s the point of it, one piece no joints....
 
Those aqualisa only got small pump (1.5 bar at most I think) . Used to be 16l/m but I think the new ones are 12.
Personally I always put them on the “eco “ mode, which I seem to remember is 10l/m; no one has ever commented that it’s not a good enough shower and I can feel do-goody.
Obviously it depends on replenishment rate, but I usually work on 50 gal per pumped shower (if likely to be used at same time).
 
As has been said, job is rough/note done correctly, despite this, it will work fine, which unfortunatly is what us proper, work proud, by the book, plumbers are up against :(

As mentioned above,

£300 all being told, is probably about right, if a little cheap for the job as a whole (done to a high standard!!) just be aware of the guarantee compliance....

It just needs clipping and lagging.
Nothing inherently wrong with the speedfit elbows being used, just makes for difficult lagging and a rough looking job. They are fit for purpose by definition. Pulled bends/tectite sprint would have been a better off the shelf option if your “plumber” couldn’t bend/pressfit.

On a separate note, Get some loft insulation?!

Stu
 
To be honest, the £300 you paid the plumber is the least of your worries. You are currently setting fire to £50 notes every single day of your life in that house with no insulation. The fact the elbows are not lagged is utterly irrelevant as the heat escaping into the loft will keep it frost free for eternity.

It looks to me like someone has done the best job they can for the price that won the job. I'd not bash the plumber till I'd heard their side of the tale.
 

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