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Hi wondered if I could ask a question about preferences as a registered plumber?

In the process of developing a product for registered plumbers which in a nutshell collates requests for gas safety certificates from our network of customers and estate agents and offers them registered plumbers who are part of our network.

We can provide 5 - 10 certs per plumber per day based on the volume we have and for this volume we normally pay between £30 - £40 per certificate so roughly averages out about £200 - £300 a day plus any work you get out of condemed boilers etc..

I'm a little concerned about reliability of people turning up at time arranged with the client so I just wanted to find out whether there is a preference for certs over installations? And whether this level of work is too much for a single person in a day?

Appreciate any help
 
I think that's what they are charging the customers Shaun, just paying the plumbers 30-40; just another one of those companies I suspect....
 
I think that's what they are charging the customers Shaun, just paying the plumbers 30-40; just another one of those companies I suspect..

Your going to get bad service as they would need to do 10 a day no no time for travelling so your not going to guarantee times etc
 
Hi

In the process of developing a product for registered plumbers which in a nutshell collates requests for gas safety certificates from our network of customers and estate agents and offers them registered plumbers who are part of our network.

Appreciate any help
Load of smoke n mirrors going on here I reckon.
Why you asking about developing this product if you have a network of guys and the customer base already in place.
 
I customer base is for certification on the electrical, EPC, Legionella Risk assessment and Inspections side of things. I think there is more to it than just sitting in an office trying to make a load of money as you put it. These are customers we've spent many thousands of pounds to acquire and maintain a business relationship with let along thousands spent on software to facilitate our current business relationship.
 
You won't get many takers for £30 per service 4 a day is about the norm no more than 5 you need to up that significantly to attract the right candidates. Kop
 
I customer base is for certification on the electrical, EPC, Legionella Risk assessment and Inspections side of things. I think there is more to it than just sitting in an office trying to make a load of money as you put it. These are customers we've spent many thousands of pounds to acquire and maintain a business relationship with let along thousands spent on software to facilitate our current business relationship.
With all due respect, the Engineers you are thinking of sub-contracting work to have spent many thousands of pounds and many years acquiring the qualifications, skills and knowledge it takes to do their job. On top of that they are the ones taking the responsibility. I think that you offering less than half of what the job is actually worth is why the above members think you're another 'give me a slice of your pie' company.
If I'm incorrect then I apologise but you must understand how it looks?
Not only do we hear it a lot on here but in the real world their are many companies (Estate agents are the main ones) who want to take all the profits out of the work involved and none of the responsibility.
 
What do you expect to be done at each appointment?
Boiler service?
Gas safety check?
How many appliances?
 
IMO estate agents or gas work brokers must be gas safe registreted by law then will make sure everything is done right.
Good point. If they were responsible for the certificate, maybe they would be more interested in having the job done correctly as opposed to not caring, charging full knacker and paying less than half of it to the individual who does the work and puts their name on it.
 
I could be wrong but I think OP wants to sit in an office and make a load of money by paying plumber half rates and then try to make him do twice as much work so he gets a good days money.
Don't know why anyone thinks this is morally acceptable.
Why isn’t it? To the OP, I would like to
Say. You will find lots of engineers willing to
Work for 30/50 a cert. However, I doubt it will be on here.
 
In reality any small Gas safe business would not even consider your offer, I would charge more than £30 to a landlord to just issue a certificate that's without a service which is £60- £75 + parts to do a through job it takes 2 hours add in travelling time between jobs and revists for replacing parts it not cost effective . Kop
 
10 'services' a day? Roughly 1.5 hours a service that's without factoring in travel time or problems. Simply you are not servicing a boiler at this point just merely a gas safety check and that's questionable.
 
I know guys who work for liberty gas they do 10 jobs (cp12s) a day I think they’re on £20 per appliance.

They will do a gas fire and boiler in 30mins and away they go.

Me personally your looking at around 2 hours for a cp12 with a fire and boiler.

I would like to be as quick as them I need to ask them what do they have for breakfast.
 
I know guys who work for liberty gas they do 10 jobs (cp12s) a day I think they’re on £20 per appliance.

They will do a gas fire and boiler in 30mins and away they go.

Me personally your looking at around 2 hours for a cp12 with a fire and boiler.

I would like to be as quick as them I need to ask them what do they have for breakfast.
The funny thing is that when you do it properly the home owners thinks you are the cowboy.
How much longer will you be, the last guy was only here 10 minutes.
Why are you taking the cover off, the last guy didn't do that.
Why do you need to go in the loft, no body has ever been up there.
I don't know where my gas meter is, never been asked before
 
There are two types of business people hunters and farmers.The Hunter is greedy and kills the cow eats burgers for 3 months and starves to death. The farmer ME and my associates just milk the cow for years. Set ur model up with the gas engineers getting £100 + per visit, then add ur small % then see what the final price is and come back to us then my boys were the best paid in Merseyside and it worked.
Rob Foster aka centralheatking
 
There are two types of business people hunters and farmers.The Hunter is greedy and kills the cow eats burgers for 3 months and starves to death. The farmer ME and my associates just milk the cow for years. Set ur model up with the gas engineers getting £100 + per visit, then add ur small % then see what the final price is and come back to us then my boys were the best paid in Merseyside and it worked.
Rob Foster aka centralheatking
There is something in this, I agree.
If you pay the workforce well, they see that they get good money, job satisfaction and little of the organisation, pricing work, dealing with problems and paperwork etc.
A lot would take that as opposed to being self employed. They also work to keep their jobs because they know they are on a good number.
 
I know guys who work for liberty gas they do 10 jobs (cp12s) a day I think they’re on £20 per appliance.

They will do a gas fire and boiler in 30mins and away they go.

Me personally your looking at around 2 hours for a cp12 with a fire and boiler.

I would like to be as quick as them I need to ask them what do they have for breakfast.


Half hour to do a boiler at fire. That's ludacris!!

By time I've taken tools out of van, greeted customer, done a let by and tightness test that's probably about 10+ minutes gone already.
 
Half hour to do a boiler at fire. That's ludacris!!

By time I've taken tools out of van, greeted customer, done a let by and tightness test that's probably about 10+ minutes gone already.

I think they have rocket fuel to drink in the morning lol.

In my opinion their trick is tightness test, analyse the boiler, stick a smoke bomb under the fire (air gap), check outside for the smoke and cp12 complete.

A lad I know was approached by liberty gas to work on a social housing contact they expect him to visit 13 houses a day. I told him are you nuts it’s not worth it.
 
TBF, the OP at no point mentioned a service. He said Gas Cert. So, technically, no legal reason to even do a TT, and certainly not a service. I suspect , though, he is not offering £40 for a Poke and Go, which plenty of guys are happy to do for BG for £20.
 
WOW! A TT isn't required to issue a cp12? But there's a question on the cert. Very weird .

To the OP, monkeys work for peanuts, Gas Engineers go to prison if we miss something and someone dies.

£30 is an absolute insult, I do them for £50 for customers how have a couple of houses, and in you've got 100s of houses it's still min £50 .

Go and sell you business idea else where, why the Damn would I want to make you rich you muppet? By offering £30 you are actually encouraging people to rush, cut corners and endanger life.

Please be so kind as to take your business idea, shove it up your arse and Damn off while you're doing it.

Regards.
 
Yep dont need to tt on a llgsc only gas rate or input pressure and fga basically (on a boiler)
 
I guess it makes sense don't have to do a TT on a service.

Just thinking about the op total cert vs installation. It's like he's saying what you rather do, work like a Japanese beaver all day or do some nice certs. What this clown doesn't realise is, lots of boiler installers aren't even qualified to do certs on fire and cookers.

Maybe if he was asking for 10% of a cert price he may have some takers, 10% finders fee is OK in my opinion, but 50 percent, hahahahaha. Get Damned
 
Hi wondered if I could ask a question about preferences as a registered plumber?

In the process of developing a product for registered plumbers which in a nutshell collates requests for gas safety certificates from our network of customers and estate agents and offers them registered plumbers who are part of our network.

We can provide 5 - 10 certs per plumber per day based on the volume we have and for this volume we normally pay between £30 - £40 per certificate so roughly averages out about £200 - £300 a day plus any work you get out of condemed boilers etc..

I'm a little concerned about reliability of people turning up at time arranged with the client so I just wanted to find out whether there is a preference for certs over installations? And whether this level of work is too much for a single person in a day?

Appreciate any help

So, to break it down....get in your car/van, drive to the job, find parking, get out tools, walk to the house door, introduce yourself, carry out the checks/service etc, complete a certificate, tidy up, say goodbye and get back to your car/van ready to get in to drive to the next job, for £30.00-£40.00?
 
As I have said before, there are plenty of engineers out there that will snap your hand off.
 
Cert alone £60. Cert and service £80. boiler and hob. other appliances extra £20. I used to do service and cert work for a local letting company in 2012/13. They paid £100 a ticket regardless of appliances. I didn't have to haggle for that price, it was what they offered me. Happy days. They sold there lettings division to another not so generous agent. Good while it lasted.
 

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