XPress fittings, pros and cons. Opinions please.

ShaunCorbs · Nov 9, 2018

Correct they can't rotate due to the m profile

I'm not saying you can't force them round but I wouldn't like to

ShaunCorbs · Nov 9, 2018

Cailean said:
So there is no movement in these joints and can't be rotated like pushfit? Reason I'm asking is that I've cut into lines in boiler rooms with these fittings already on the pipe work and they have rotated, but still kept their seal.

I've seen them pass a test but not been pressed

ABK · Nov 9, 2018

Also, I wouldn't bother with the corded versions as they are much heavier, bulkier and even slower than the cordless.

Ric2013 · Nov 9, 2018

Ah. So press fittings are a metal to metal seal? Perhaps I'll withdraw my main objection then.

That said, the fact that there is an o ring is a concern as how will you ever know if the copper seal if doing its job or if you are relying on a bit of rubber that will eventually degrade?

ShaunCorbs · Nov 9, 2018

Ric2013 said:
Ah. So press fittings are a metal to metal seal? Perhaps I'll withdraw my main objection then.

That said, the fact that there is an o ring is a concern as how will you ever know if the copper seal if doing its job or if you are relying on a bit of rubber that will eventually degrade?

Yes

Geberit have a 25 year warranty on the fittings so if anything goes wrong it's upto manufacturer aslong as it's fitted to spec

Most schools and hospitals are plumbed hot and cold services in press now

Ric2013 · Nov 11, 2018

Hep has a 50 year warranty, or is Geberit also warranting against consequential loss?

quality · Nov 11, 2018

In a commercial environment its a no brainer but when used in domestic applications it has its limitations

Deleted member 96286 · Nov 13, 2018

Bought a second hand REMS Akku - Press machine with 15mm, 22mm, 28mm and 35mm and I've placed an order for 15mm and 22mm XPress fittings.

I've also been given a Geberit ACO 102 Press Tool on loan to try out on a try before you buy, which has the same tongs as above but for Viega fittings. I'm waiting on these fittings being delivered.

Both machines are in tip top condition and come at under £500 each.

Once I've tested both out and formed an opinion over a month, I'll post up my findings and views on what system I prefer.

Deleted member 96286 · Dec 21, 2018

Loving the machine. Took a bit of getting used to, especially as the Akku Press is very heavy. It's great for radiators in 15mm and a big bonus is that Xpress is available in Chrome fittings and these press directly to chrome pipe without having to file off the chrome plating. The machine I bought was an EBay purchase and cost me £450 including 15mm to 35mm tongs, two batteries and a charger. It's perfect for starting me off, but I'll upgrade in the New Year to a smaller lighter one like the aco 102 or REMS mini press S type.

MOSSEP · Jan 2, 2019

I’ve had no leaks with xpress fittings, but I can confirm that you can rotate the pipe in the fitting after pressing, although it takes a fair bit of force to do it.

I use a REMS mini press and it gets a lot of use, especially on repair works when I don’t have ages to wait for water to fully drain from pipework. I rarely do domestic jobs but have used it in those situations a few times.

MOSSEP · Jan 2, 2019

I get most of my fittings from Williams, they have express on the shelf and the prices are pretty good

BYP · Jan 2, 2019

I’ve considered press myself, although as others have said I can’t see it being worthwhile on domestic work. The cost is a issue too, as this will have to be passed on to customers.

island fling · Jan 3, 2019

I am using a Geberit/Novo press & we have 3 in the company.
Find them brilliant but as other say they can be a bit bulky, Used them from bathroom/kitchen refurb to domestic new builds to commercial boiler house work.
I buy 90% of my fittings from william wilson & the other 10% from BES if i am putting an order in anyway. I haven't found anyone that can compete with WW yet.
We still solder occasionally & get apprentices to solder until year 3 at least, this way we should keep options open & training to a good standard.

ShaunCorbs · Jan 3, 2019

island fling said:
I am using a Geberit/Novo press & we have 3 in the company.
Find them brilliant but as other say they can be a bit bulky, Used them from bathroom/kitchen refurb to domestic new builds to commercial boiler house work.
I buy 90% of my fittings from william wilson & the other 10% from BES if i am putting an order in anyway. I haven't found anyone that can compete with WW yet.
We still solder occasionally & get apprentices to solder until year 3 at least, this way we should keep options open & training to a good standard.

Have a look at pipekit

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