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At a rough amount around 6-7k

Bollox all other than a training room test
 
Success story right here! Been qualified 2 years with no previous experience! Skills now valued enough to have an apprentice with company!
I did my quals with Birmingham metropolitan. My dad was my "mentor", he strongly advised against the training centre. I paid 2700 for fires cookers meters boilers and CPA. The course was 10 months. It was good, think that was largely down to the tutors, but far too much information to retain in a short period if time! In my opinion, having watched others that I went to class with, if the mentor and tutor are crap then there's very little chance of success!
It all comes down to the person learning being able to understand the responsibilities involved BEFORE opting for a career within the industry and finding a mentor that's happy to spend a little time to mould a future engineer!
 
Success story right here! Been qualified 2 years with no previous experience! Skills now valued enough to have an apprentice with company!
I did my quals with Birmingham metropolitan. My dad was my "mentor", he strongly advised against the training centre. I paid 2700 for fires cookers meters boilers and CPA. The course was 10 months. It was good, think that was largely down to the tutors, but far too much information to retain in a short period if time! In my opinion, having watched others that I went to class with, if the mentor and tutor are crap then there's very little chance of success!
It all comes down to the person learning being able to understand the responsibilities involved BEFORE opting for a career within the industry and finding a mentor that's happy to spend a little time to mould a future engineer!
That’s very true mate but I’m sure you will agree that in 99% of cases people are not adequately trained nor are they competent to be let loose on their own without support. It sounds like you have attacked this with a very mature head and have been pragmatic in your approach that you’re not instantly going to be making serious blucks, but rather you have focused on getting a good knowledge capital under your belt. Not trying to run before you can walk. I think practicality is a huge issue here as you’ve been lucky enough to have a sensible mentor that has obviously brought you along at a sensible pace whereas in the real world unfortunately people are too busy to train properly. It’s sad but it’s true.
 
Success story right here! Been qualified 2 years with no previous experience! Skills now valued enough to have an apprentice with company!
I did my quals with Birmingham metropolitan. My dad was my "mentor", he strongly advised against the training centre. I paid 2700 for fires cookers meters boilers and CPA. The course was 10 months. It was good, think that was largely down to the tutors, but far too much information to retain in a short period if time! In my opinion, having watched others that I went to class with, if the mentor and tutor are crap then there's very little chance of success!
It all comes down to the person learning being able to understand the responsibilities involved BEFORE opting for a career within the industry and finding a mentor that's happy to spend a little time to mould a future engineer!
10 months!!! Lot longer than 8 weeks, and then seems to think he is "quite good with gas".

I can't see these training centres turning many engineers in reality, I suspect the original posted will be paying his mentor to be nothing more than a cab mut (labour).
 
When I done my course it was 22 weeks in the class room and then I spent the next year 2-3 evenings a week with a GSRI
Yes it was hard work and people said you want manage it blah blah blah.
Not everyone does an apprenticeship and when you get older doing an apprenticeship isn’t an option but that should not mean you can’t do it , it means it will be more difficult getting into a job but should not mean you can’t!
I’m now 3 years gas safe registered and work as an installer and my company have been very supportive because they saw the hard work I put in.
You can’t knock people for trying
 
Hey all. Firstly thanks to all the contributors here, very informative and interesting.

I start a 9 week course in June, and have managed to find a couple of local companies willing to take me on for completing my portfolio (approx. 120 hrs is the minimum required), FOC. It wasn't easy and in the end I had to send non-generic, interesting and slightly wacky emails to grab their interest.

The company I've chosen have then offered a couple of months (non paid) work experience when I've completed my ACS exams, where i'll be paired with an old boy engineer (30+ yrs experience) who's retiring next year. If i can impress with my knowledge, skill and dedication/hard work who knows.

I'm spending countless hours each week prior to the course getting as much study in as poss. On the course i'll make sure i smash it. I'll take in everything the old boy says on my work experience and i'll have the right attitude throughout...what more can you do!?

I appreciate what you guys are saying...there is no substitute for experience, in anything you do. And partly why I've chosen this career is because i want to always be challenged, and always learning.

Despite some negative (if not realistic in some ways) messages here i'm optimistic and plan to smash this. PMA man!
 
Wacky funny emails will help get you noticed for sure, I've used them in the past with various company's but never looking for a job etc.

Brave, glad it's worked for you.
 
Wacky funny emails will help get you noticed for sure, I've used them in the past with various company's but never looking for a job etc.

Brave, glad it's worked for you.


I literally wrote about 30 normal, business type emails looking for someone to take me on for my portfolio and got nothing. Felt dejected, sad, and with nothing to loose decided to be myself, and sent 3 more emails but with a little (regulated) humor, honesty and sincerity and ended up getting two replies from two different companies within days.

Don't get me wrong, i'm not there yet, have a long way to go, shi*t can still happen, and reading this forum i'm well aware that i'm gonna need a bit of luck (among other things) to make it past the first year so we'll see how it goes!
 
Sounds about right, we are businesses, we are business men just like the guys that wear suits, but as a general rule we love a good laugh.

It's a great trade, good luck and enjoy it. None of us ever stop learning.
 
Man this is all too familiar ....

I’m also a newbie who’s just become gas safe. However I struggled to do my portfolio at the time and as a mature student I used my age (37) and sheer determination to leave my feet in a few doors.

Eventually whilst working full time I managed to get experience with a company. Eight months later they took me on after I was qualified.

It couldn’t have worked out better! However it was not easy leaving an office job to go into a trade but it’s been a journey.

As for you mo you have to understand your limitations. It takes years to understand this trade. I’m a service engineer now for a gas company and it’s not easy!

Just wish you all the best
 
Man this is all too familiar ..

I’m also a newbie who’s just become gas safe. However I struggled to do my portfolio at the time and as a mature student I used my age (37) and sheer determination to leave my feet in a few doors.

Eventually whilst working full time I managed to get experience with a company. Eight months later they took me on after I was qualified.

It couldn’t have worked out better! However it was not easy leaving an office job to go into a trade but it’s been a journey.

As for you mo you have to understand your limitations. It takes years to understand this trade. I’m a service engineer now for a gas company and it’s not easy!

Just wish you all the best

This post is spot on, I got lucky with my training, but starting on services is (as I did) is the only way to learn how to fix boilers.

Installing in my opinion is a different trade, I've installed a few and it's physical hard going, fixing boilers for the first 2 or 3 years is mentally hard going, either way it's not easy.
 
This post is spot on, I got lucky with my training, but starting on services is (as I did) is the only way to learn how to fix boilers.

Installing in my opinion is a different trade, I've installed a few and it's physical hard going, fixing boilers for the first 2 or 3 years is mentally hard going, either way it's not easy.


And that’s the thing. I’ve never installed on my own but with mates helping out etc. But I don’t have the confidence to yet.

However I have just done a manufacture gas training course on a particular boiler and it made me realise.... training training training !!
 
And that’s the thing. I’ve never installed on my own but with mates helping out etc. But I don’t have the confidence to yet.

However I have just done a manufacture gas training course on a particular boiler and it made me realise.. training training training !!


What sort manf course, I'm ex BG so think I know it all, maybe I should go on some manufacturers courses? Do they cover fault finding?

I used to go on in house BG courses, all they did was Socket n See and safe isolation, clearly just worried about if I electrocuted myself and my family tried to sue.

Tell me more about these manf course's?
 
Best one get your backside on the BDR thermea
 
What sort manf course, I'm ex BG so think I know it all, maybe I should go on some manufacturers courses? Do they cover fault finding?

I used to go on in house BG courses, all they did was Socket n See and safe isolation, clearly just worried about if I electrocuted myself and my family tried to sue.

Tell me more about these manf course's?

I’m sure your aware boiler manufacturers do one day courses
 
And I m not asking for a job because I m not after your money, what I m looking is get some experience,
Just to add a few things here. I just passed my acs and I have seen with my own eyes mptha5 majority of the people were either cab drivers or from offices. Do not get me wrong but 99% of those people had literally no clue what they were doing. Theorie they maybe good and better than qualified and experienced plumbers but when it comes to practical, you won’t believe what people do in the assessments. There were 2 cab drivers and they really had a good brain for Theorie but when it came to practical assessments ... oh dear.

Just don’t take shauncorbs questions wrong he is just telling you the truth and wants to guide you in the right direction.
 
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