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Hi there i am a training at college and am trying to get to grips with the recognised quality brands in the industry. I am just starting my level 2 tech certificate and am buying the basic tools to practice my soldering and bends at home. I have been advised to buy a hilmor bender, but what is the best blow torch for my needs, bearing in mind when i start plumbing as a profession in 3-4 years time i want a quality tool that will last. There are so many prices / types / different gases etc - it is very confusing to someone with no experience so any help will be appreciated. Thanks
 
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I use the Rothenberger Superfire 2, bought it online and it has never let me down. But you can get them from your local plumb but not sure how much they are there. I bought an adaptor for the end of mine from plumb and it makes the flame smaller and just sits on the end of the torch its a great bit of kit
 
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I use this torch,
TX504 Extreme Turbolite Torch


suitable for soldering up to 2" pipe, adjustable flame, and high temperature. I purchased this one because I was soldering large sizes of pipe when I worked in commercial.
 
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Best blowlamp i ever had was a sievert gun on a flex to an 8lb gas bottle , so easy to manouver , seemed easier than holding rothy with propane bottle .
 
Best blowlamp i ever had was a sievert gun on a flex to an 8lb gas bottle , so easy to manouver , seemed easier than holding rothy with propane bottle .

when I was on site about 25 years ago I used a bullfinch that had piezo ingnition with a dumpy bottle now as I get older it has to be something lighter a superfire2 with propane or mapp if on anything over 28 mm:)regards turnpin
 
Superfire2/propane for me.

Not yet had a customer where I wanted a good accident but it's powerful enough to cause some major hassle in a few seconds ... :D

Pretty good at soldering by the way :cool:
 
ive got the pencil nose adaptor flame is less fierce and controllable.

danny i find it to be a good bit of kit but everyone will have there preferances.
 
Danny the pencil adaptors are only really any use on half inch and if you burn the wallpaper using one of those you need a slap.

Up to around 12 years ago the nozzle of choice was the primus like thisprimus 8716.jpg with a medium burner or a full burner if working regular on 1" and above.
In the 90's Primus brought out the cyclone burner which was a great improvement. Hotter more controllable flame and no flaring. You can still buy them and they are as good as a surefire but you need a lighter. You can also use a primus bottle as a hammer if you are stuck :eek:
Before that and for site work it was the 8lb bottle and the nozzle on a hose.
 
Danny the pencil adaptors are only really any use on half inch and if you burn the wallpaper using one of those you need a slap.

Up to around 12 years ago the nozzle of choice was the primus like thisView attachment 1634 with a medium burner or a full burner if working regular on 1" and above.
In the 90's Primus brought out the cyclone burner which was a great improvement. Hotter more controllable flame and no flaring. You can still buy them and they are as good as a surefire but you need a lighter. You can also use a primus bottle as a hammer if you are stuck :eek:
Before that and for site work it was the 8lb bottle and the nozzle on a hose.

I had one of those primus turbine burners, and boy did it flare up,
 
There is a new genration of Gas torches around nowadays.
The Vulcane Express is my favorite, lightweight quick with interchangeable nozzles and spare piezo's Easy to use, reliable.
A bit pricey but what would you expect for a proffessional bit of kit.

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Bullfinch Firepower torch with MAPP cartridge. The Firepower is available either to fit disposable cartridges or refillable Primus cartridges.
 
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just bought the bullfinch performa seems to be running far to hot on propane its over cooking 15mm,faulty or wrong gas about to ring bullfinch as instructions say to use propane only which i am
 
I have 2 torches, one is the superfire 2 with the standard nozzle which i like using when im soldering 22mm or bigger and the other is the turbotorch which is pictured earlier on in this post which i find is superb for 15mm or soldering in tight spaces where you need a fine controlled flame. propane with both of them is ample. i keep a bottle of mapp with me too tho just for them special occasions where theres some water in the pipe which needs soldering or your trying too get a 30 year old immersion out of a cylinder :D
 
just another point too note the turbotorch has a swivel nozzle so you can point it however you want which can help when your limited with space whereas the superfire 2 isnt
 
7-9th down look / are the superfires
 
All about the turbo torch extreme with standard propane. Forget mapp gas. Ive had superfire 2 in the past but find a turbo torch has a more direct flame...no need to use a heat mat at all!
 
Super fire 2 and Propane adapted to Primus reusable Bottle.
 
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