#novanber Let’s stop van theft/tool theft

[Ashly90]

hi everyone!
Been on here a while but haven’t posted much. I’m sure everyone is aware of van theft/tool theft at the moment. There’s a petition at the moment which is asking for tougher sentences and more to be done to the people taking tradesmens livelihood. I’ve attached a link for it if anyone wants to sign it. Credit to Peter booth ( pb plumber ) for creating the petition.

Petition: Investigate what more can be done to tackle van theft and van tool theft.

 

[Harvest Fields]

Is there now not 3 posts on this?

 

[Ashly90]

Is there now not 3 posts on this?

My bad if there is, I’ve had a look through and couldn’t see anything but fell free to have it removed if it is duplicated

 

[Welder]

I already posted it Ashly. However with something as important as this, duplicates can do no harm

 

[Ashly90]

I already posted it Ashly. However with something as important as this, duplicates can do no harm

Defiantly! Cheers for letting me know, must have missed it somewhere

 

[Harvest Fields]

I already posted it Ashly. However with something as important as this, duplicates can do no harm

Judas.

 

[SlimD]

Manufacturers can play a much bigger role in preventing van tool theft. Some vans are so easy to break into (various examples on YouTube) that you might as well advertise "Free tools here" on the side of your van. If manufacturers put a bit more thought and effort into physical security of their vehicles it'd make it a lot harder for toe rags to break into them.
I've just shelled out for deadlocks on my van. I can't afford it but I can afford losing all my tools even less.

 

[Ashly90]

Manufacturers can play a much bigger role in preventing van tool theft. Some vans are so easy to break into (various examples on YouTube) that you might as well advertise "Free tools here" on the side of your van. If manufacturers put a bit more thought and effort into physical security of their vehicles it'd make it a lot harder for toe rags to break into them.
I've just shelled out for deadlocks on my van. I can't afford it but I can afford losing all my tools even less.

100%. My van can be got into with something that cost £10 and anyone can get hold of it. It’s madness. They should fit deadlocks as standard to them and even if it added 500 or so to the price I don’t think people will mind as it’s secure.

 

[ttemerge]

Disgusting their aren't better solutions for this problem. I lost almost a thousands pounds worth of equipment last week

 

[Welder]

Sorry to hear that. Been done three times myself so I know the all consuming rage at the b4stards.

 

[BYP]

Signed

 

[skoronesa]

On our american forum there is a guy who has a key fob that buzzes when door sensors in his van go off. That seems to me like the best solution. As soon a door opens on the van he knows. He also carries a pistol so any would be thief has got it coming.

And before you make any murica jokes this particular individual actually lives in canada. He lives in a bad neighborhood with bad neighbors and his house is like fort knox with steel casings on the doors and cameras/motion sensors everywhere.

 

[Best]

On our american forum there is a guy who has a key fob that buzzes when door sensors in his van go off. That seems to me like the best solution. As soon a door opens on the van he knows. He also carries a pistol so any would be thief has got it coming.

And before you make any murica jokes this particular individual actually lives in canada. He lives in a bad neighborhood with bad neighbors and his house is like fort knox with steel casings on the doors and cameras/motion sensors everywhere.

Different compared with most of the U.K. in that few people can legally carry firearms here and if you try to protect yourself with one you will likely be arrested.
Even most of the U.K. police are unarmed, although that is slowly changing as common sense makes it necessary.

Our criminals here have rights.

 

[skoronesa]

Different compared with most of the U.K. in that few people can legally carry firearms here and if you try to protect yourself with one you will likely be arrested.
Even most of the U.K. police are unarmed, although that is slowly changing as common sense makes it necessary.

Our criminals here have rights.

Our criminals have plenty of rights here too. I wasn't advocating for the killing of would be thieves. I was just pointing out that he has an effective alarm system and a means to protect his belongings.

When push comes to shove if your would be thief doesn't have a firearm than a pipe wrench will likely do you well. Here in the us and canada there is a great likelihood that the thief may have a firearm so naturally you would also want one if you plan on protecting your property or person.

I think that generally the kinds of people to steal from a work van are just a step above those who check parked cars for unlocked doors. They figure if they are going to target vehicles that are locked anyway and break in they might as well guarantee themselves a good pay out by attacking the higher value targets that still only have basic security systems.

I would love a couple dash cams for my vans as well as a notifier if the doors are opened. Carrying a pistol would just be the icing on the cake.

 

[Welder]

Our criminals have plenty of rights here too. I wasn't advocating for the killing of would be thieves....
Carrying a pistol would just be the icing on the cake.

Much as I hate the low life scum that carry out these crimes, the alternative you describe above would, for me, signal the placing of the final nail in the coffin of society.

 

[Pickwickpick]

Much as I hate the low life scum that carry out these crimes, the alternative you describe above would, for me, signal the placing of the final nail in the coffin of society.

Couldn't agree more and as we can see from the states, its not even effective, its hardly a crime free utopia over there and more often than not the innocent are the victims of an exponentially brutal society. The 'eye for an eye leaves everyone blind' adage has a lot going for it. Don't get me wrong its important for there to be consequences to actions, but they should be based on rule of law not extra judicial imo.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Not good even getting past deadlocks / slam locks

 

[Riley]

Arseholes

 

[Harvest Fields]

Arseholes

You should know better than that mr Admin

 

[Riley]

When it comes to van thieves the words I want to use will get blanked out

 

[townfanjon]

We cant beat these bast**** and they know it .

 

[Riley]

Well we can but we’ll be the ones in trouble.

 

[townfanjon]

Well we can but we’ll be the ones in trouble.

“ Stinger vans “ and baseball bats .

 

[SlimD]

Got to turn it around on them. If they know they’ll be spoken to in their own language (arse kicking) then they might think again.

 

[skoronesa]

Just bring your big mate home in the back of your van and park it on the street with the door "Accidentally left ajar".

 

[Riley]

Not worth a dislike mate we don’t have the firearms of the us.

 

[SlimD]

Couldn't agree more and as we can see from the states, its not even effective, its hardly a crime free utopia over there and more often than not the innocent are the victims of an exponentially brutal society. The 'eye for an eye leaves everyone blind' adage has a lot going for it. Don't get me wrong its important for there to be consequences to actions, but they should be based on rule of law not extra judicial imo.

I agree about the point of law etc... however the police are a non-entity these days for this kind of thing so at present there are NO consequences for these scumbags actions and they know it as they know there’s no police left anyway, thanks to Tory cuts, so they’ve nothing to fear and can do as they please. Makes me sick!
Until police start to give a damn then eye for an eye, unfortunately, is the only avenue open for hard working people.