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    Hi, I have been approached by a letting agent today that I look after. They are saying it is now law that legionnaires risk assessments should be carried out on all rented properties.

    Has anybody heard of this because I haven't and if so, will it be a good idea for me to do a legionnaires course.

    Or is it just one big pain in the butt !!

    Your thoughts please!!

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    Legionnaires seems to be the new asbestos. The council are bang on it at the moment. No dead legs on hot supplies etc.
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    When you do a risk assessment, how would you know if there were dead legs beneath the floor??? I'm thinking of doing the course as I've already got a list of 15 property's to do.

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    Not heard it myself, but that doesn't mean its not true.

    Quick scout of the old google brought this up:

    HSE -Legionnaires' disease - What you must do

    Which states landlords have an obligation to understand the risks involved.

    I also found this site, which gives you a downloadable template which, you could use to give you an idea of where to start.

    Practical Guidance And Template For Legionella Risk Assessment | GRL Landlord Association

    I dont think you need to get yourself booked onto a L8 course just to do a risk assessment. As long as you understand the basics, stored water temperatures, dead legs, disinfect shower heads etc.

    Hope thats of some help

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    Default Re: legionnaires risk assessment

    There's been a few of these posts recently, and I've also been doing a lot of dead leg removals and setting temperatures of late so maybe there's some weight in it yet

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    The course is £280. Seems worth while as I can carry out the assessments whilst doing the gas safety checks.... More penny's in the bank!!

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    Sounds like another training centre money making scheme
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    surely water regulations cover legionnaires, as we all know if you have water regs, hot above cold, no dead legs, cold water pipes below 25c law best practice 20c stored hot water above 60c as legionella will flourish between 25c to 50c, or is it like applumbing said another training centre money making scheme and more cards to carry in your wallet
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    Peeps this is utter BS. There is NO specific and seperate requirement to carry out this assessment. If you care to checkout the HSE mythbusters pages you will find HSE say its nowt but a scam by letting agents to frighten landlords into parting with more dosh. The HSE post takes you off to old existing legislation which every landlord should be adhereing to anyway. This is the ongoing duty of care towards tenants.
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    Didn't a landlord get fined £20k or so the other year? I guess the agents are trying to defer any potential liability
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    You need to do a course to make sure you can check water temperatures... take my money now..

    Oh wait that's not how its going to play out
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    Default Re: legionnaires risk assessment

    The HSE post also states catagorically that they DO NOT accept any form of certificate regarding this inspection. Every landlord has an ongoing duty of care to their tenants so every case is judged on their individual merits. If, for example, you have a tenant in a multi bathroom accomodation but don't tell them to run each shower head for 20 mins once a month and legionella develops in one then its the landlords problem no matter what a cert says. If teh tenant ignores the advice then the tenant is in the clear. If a landlord won't pay for dead legs over, for example, 300mm to be removed and legionella develops then its their head on the block. ALL covered by EXISTING legislation.

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