Surrey or Essex, What's your choice?

[Last Plumber]

Which would you use with a shower pump mounted on the floor next to a 36x18 cylinder.

Not big on shower pumps but I am replacing a cylinder soon which has a shower pump installed off an Essex.

Reason for asking is, I have had a Surrey in the van for many moons. This could be a chance to get rid but in my nagging self criticising mind I think Essex is a better job.

Your thoughts please?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Surrey all day long seen too many essexs leaking

 

[Last Plumber]

Are they okay?
Not more likely to pull air in?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Are they okay?
Not more likely to pull air in?

There fine and no as they have a dip tube that go down roughly to the same height as an Essex anyway I've never had any problems with them

 

[Last Plumber]

There fine and no as they have a dip tube that go down roughly to the same height as an Essex anyway I've never had any problems with them

Thanks Shaun

 

[Harvest Fields]

If there is a side entry points in the cylinder to tap into surely it makes sense to use an Essex, but if it is top entry I would use a Surrey.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

If there is a side entry points in the cylinder to tap into surely it makes sense to use an Essex, but if it is top entry I would use a Surrey.

You mean if there's already a tapping in the side eg 22mm compression ??

 

[Harvest Fields]

Yeah. I know I can put a tapping into the side myself but I've always been to scared to do it incase I knacker the cylinder. Have seen other people do it though.

 

[Harvest Fields]

Ignore part of my last. Got confused with a Essex. Just looked at one I have never used on the van and it comes with the connector to put the hole in the tank. My mistake. Sorry.

 

[mfgs]

Always surrey for me, I hate Essex flanges

 

[cr0ft]

Going to throw a cat amongst the pigeons. Fitted a new shower pump onto a Surrey flange. Only time I've ever had a problem with a new pump install, and only time I've ever used a Surrey flange. Had to go back and fit an Essex flange as pump was pulling through air still. worked a treat then.

I just assemble the Essex flange with a wee bit of LSX on both seals. Never had a problem with one like that.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Going to throw a cat amongst the pigeons. Fitted a new shower pump onto a Surrey flange. Only time I've ever had a problem with a new pump install, and only time I've ever used a Surrey flange. Had to go back and fit an Essex flange as pump was pulling through air still. worked a treat then.

I just assemble the Essex flange with a wee bit of LSX on both seals. Never had a problem with one like that.

Did you replace the s flange / did it have a dip tube ?

 

[Harvest Fields]

LSX is quite amazing really but a nightmare when trying to undo it once it has set.

 

[cr0ft]

Did you replace the s flange / did it have a dip tube ?

Not sure to be honest. In the end I just got rid of it and fitted an Essex flange!

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Not sure to be honest. In the end I just got rid of it and fitted an Essex flange!

Can't see how it could pull in air if it has a dip tube (normally about 6" long) so the cylinder would have to be drained abit before it would suck in air

 

[cr0ft]

Sorry, meant to say it didn't have a dip tube so was basically just a tee on top. Probably explains why it drew air then tbh :/

I like Essex flanges, they're not too bad to fit and you can charge good cash for fitting them too.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Sorry, meant to say it didn't have a dip tube so was basically just a tee on top. Probably explains why it drew air then tbh :/

I like Essex flanges, they're not too bad to fit and you can charge good cash for fitting them too.

There's your problem not an s flange prob just a brass t

 

[Best]

Essex flanges are a disgrace IMO. Drilling an oversized hole in the cylinder and using an Essex rubber jointed flange centred on the hole, - no thanks! Heat damages the rubber seals and Essexs aren't cheap!
If you are installing a new cylinder and really want a direct tapping on side of cylinder, - get a new cylinder with the extra tapping. Or it is extremely easy to use a brass tank fitting, having drilled a tight fit hole and use a piece of stiff wire (earth wire) to thread the tank fitting through the hole. Or install a Warix or Surrey flange.

 

[Last Plumber]

Thanks for all your input

Warrick/surrey it is.

Anyone know why they're named after places?