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been advertising for plumbing apprenticeship for 3weeks with only 3 calls and only one person turn up for trial. guess no one wants to be a plumber any more??

advertised with college, Facebook, street life
 
Tesco and others pays more for much less work and plenty of the opposite sex and socialising as you work. Can't blame them for avoiding a trade.
 
Sorry to say best has hit the nail on the head short of pay them qualified rates you won't find many young that will be willing to graft and do hard work
 
Lidl paying 10.60 an hour. Leave brain at the door.

Exactly more than a qualified plumber round here gets a week less stress on body as well
 
At over ÂŁ400 a 40 hour week at Lidl is good money.
No brains needed as said, no real hard work, no stress, no work van or tools expenses needed, no waiting on wages or other self employed business problems.
Joke is some of the people who work in these stores are grumpy and complain of the hard day they have.
 
At over ÂŁ400 a 40 hour week at Lidl is good money.
No brains needed as said, no real hard work, no stress, no work van or tools expenses needed, no waiting on wages or other self employed business problems.
Joke is some of the people who work in these stores are grumpy and complain of the hard day they have.

But bet they don't fancy swapping for a week

Plumbers / heating eng are a dying bread that do it for the fun of it
 
Last apprentice we had spent first 16 weeks at college on health and safety.
I'm all for being safe but he wouldn't do anything I asked due to everything being life threatening !
That's how it sounded anyway.

Learning a trade is a long hard slog at low pay as we all know.
It's all I.T. Or sports science or tesco/lidl jobs now.

Who's going to fix my heating when I'm too old to do it anymore ?
 
Last apprentice we had spent first 16 weeks at college on health and safety.
I'm all for being safe but he wouldn't do anything I asked due to everything being life threatening !
That's how it sounded anyway.

Learning a trade is a long hard slog at low pay as we all know.
It's all I.T. Or sports science or tesco/lidl jobs now.

Who's going to fix my heating when I'm too old to do it anymore ?

By then depending on age it will be a man and a laptop

Plug in plug out
 
Shortage of plumbers will only push the prices up so bring it on :p

And then lower them due to all the 6 week wonders but then rise again due to there cock ups :D
 
There are lads out there whos parents would still bite yer hand off for an apprenticeship for their boy but unfortunately 70% of the yoof have been brainwashed by the system and the others need a kick up the ar se.
 
in my area I am aware of a plumber with C&G level 3 and a job left because Aldi were paying ÂŁ.050p more per hour...
 
People call a plumber when things go wrong and then associate us with the problem. The attitude of why should I understand my heating system when I can call some monkey to fix it is common. There is more respect for the call centre staff when they invoke the boiler cover than for heating engineer who turns up. "Don't get technical just fix it", is said with no self awareness of what it reveals about the speaker's ignorance.
Add to that any self employed plumber works on the equivalent of a zero hours contract, include anti social hours and lack of paid holidays and plumbing will not stand out as a desirable job option.
Whilst we have a fragmented building industry nothing will change. Meanwhile make sure you're the most expensive monkey on the block.
 
We all moan about apprentices, they're clumsy, bone idol, always on the phone or loosing tools. I've never believed the press about the shortage of plumbers until recently. We can't even find bad ones at the minute and that's despite paying a good rate!

We've just taken on a 29year old labourer chequered past with demolition as his only real link to a trade. That said he has a great attitude and shows promise.

I think the hardest part is finding a youngen who wants to be a plumber rather then parents said they should do it.

Half the battle at the point is won. Then it's about keeping them interested getting tasks done given them there own project to do anything from hanging a single rad and piping it, to an airing cupboard etc. Letting them see their own development so they can see them selves learn and progress rather then passing us spanners and screwdrivers all day
 
i have just finished my 4 year apprenticeship having started it at just turned 16 and left school. wasnt 100% sure it was what i wanted to do, but manged to get a position with a good company and havent looked back since! definitely the best thing ive ever done! i find it really interesting but then do see other apprentices that cant be asked and like you say are just always on phones ect. I can see alot of these people doing just for something to do, but there are still a few like myself who are keen and passionate about the trade, cheers!
 
well, I hope the shortage continues..
I went to 2 firms a while back around here that were looking for guys for all aspects of plumbing.
one offered me ÂŁ8/hour and the other ÂŁ10/hour.
cant work for that.
 
well, I hope the shortage continues..
I went to 2 firms a while back around here that were looking for guys for all aspects of plumbing.
one offered me ÂŁ8/hour and the other ÂŁ10/hour.
cant work for that.

you fully qualified?
 
I wouldn't work for any less than ÂŁ15 per hour, maybe ÂŁ14 if books in and a van.

Not heard of anyone being paid any less around here(Glasgow)

ÂŁ10 for a qualified plumber! I pay my labourers 9.50
 
i have just finished my 4 year apprenticeship having started it at just turned 16 and left school. wasnt 100% sure it was what i wanted to do, but manged to get a position with a good company and havent looked back since! definitely the best thing ive ever done! i find it really interesting but then do see other apprentices that cant be asked and like you say are just always on phones ect. I can see alot of these people doing just for something to do, but there are still a few like myself who are keen and passionate about the trade, cheers!
That was me (& I guess a few others on here) 35years ago, perhaps not with the distraction of a phone but there were other things :smile5:

Perhaps the difference back then was being a plumber carried a modicum of respect & it did required the apprenticeship to achieve that status.

Good luck Gb with your future career, if you are the best at what you do you tend to survive & prosper, one things for sure it will always keep your brain active which can't be said of the Aldi or the call centre brigade.
 
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my mate who fits the rads is on holiday and I got a new guy for two weeks on the third day he says he,s going to work for a ground works firm as its more money ! and hes proably right
 
I wonna be a pilot... Wow... Or maybe not, it's a bloody long drop up there... :bat:
 
I wish I had not gone into pipe fitting / welding. I am from Yorkshire originally, now living in Essex, where my wife is from. Her family had such a better way of life than we did and my dad had a fantastic job, we never went without holiday Etc, but whilst i was 10 we were holidaying in France and they were out in there own Villa in Florida. He retired 20 years ago as a stockbrokers clerk on 70k a year. no qualifications, no A levels Etc, and his bonus was normally 80-100% of his salary.

I'm glad i have settled down here, my kids have a potential fantastic way of life and im 40 mins from the city
 
If that's what you want, go for it! Good luck with the move.
 
The PlayStation generation (generally) don't want to do anything that you can do if you can do it bet ter in a game.

Also I think they've realised they're not going to get that 50k a year.
 
As a member of the Playstation generation, or at least the N64 generation, I can honestly say that you may be right generally, but I could make similar generalisations about your generation, and you might not appreciate it. I'm sure you don't mean to cause offence, but I'm finding it really hard not to take it.

My point is that that this sort of talk just makes whoever is being generalised think: Two Fingers!

Imagine starting a sentence with 'Black people (generally)...'. Can you see where I am coming from?
 
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