Info for people considering fast tracking

Discussion in 'Plumbing Courses' started by GQuigley67, Mar 19, 2011.

  1. GQuigley67

    GQuigley67 UK Plumbersforums Trusted Advisor.

    anyone thinking of paying thousands of pounds for a fast track course should read this article first

    Are fast-track plumbing courses just money down the drain? - CIPHE

    short part of article:

    Some companies offering fast-track courses claim there is a nationwide shortage of plumbers. "The country is in dire need of qualified plumbers," says Train4TradeSkills on its website, quoting a former trainee who "never takes home less than £1,200 per week". New Career Skills, another private training company, says in its latest brochure: "The massive plumbing shortage provides an opportunity for those who want a lucrative, secure and fulfilling career."
    The reality can be very different. Ivor Bates, who runs a London plumbing firm, Bates Heating and Plumbing, says he is contacted three or four times each week by people who have completed a fast-track course and are desperate for work experience to achieve the industry-standard NVQ level 2.
    "Around 10% of these guys offer to work for nothing and say they have rung endless plumbing companies and will do anything to get a foot in the door," he says. "One bloke saw my van outside Asda and ran into the supermarket after me and offered to pay me to take him on. But I would never take someone from one of these short courses because they have not got experience of working on-site and I would not be confident sending them into customers' homes."
  2. Blackcatgas

    Blackcatgas Plumbers Arms member

    Like all the best cons, it relies on peoples greed, promises of 50k a year etc,people will become blinkerd, even when confronted with the truth people will still do these courses.
  3. GQuigley67

    GQuigley67 UK Plumbersforums Trusted Advisor.

    thought its a good article to have on here though, as it is from CIPHE who are a governing body
  4. pauls

    pauls Plumbers Arms member

    one bloke takes home a minimum os £1,200 a week i wish they way things are at the moment im lucky to get that a month lol
  5. GQuigley67

    GQuigley67 UK Plumbersforums Trusted Advisor.

    maybe i wrote the title wrong think it should be "info for people considering fast tracking" if one of the mods can change it or something ?
  6. fuzzy

    fuzzy Guest

    ive been saying it for ages on here. i am worried they will ruin the plumbing industry with their lies and then leave. leaving us to pick up the pieces
  7. Bartdude

    Bartdude Plumbers Arms member

    I had 2 letters asking for a job this week.
  8. Puddle

    Puddle Plumbers Arms member

    no problem,was that one suger or two :p:)

    Good article, must admit, I must be a skin flint coz if I was going to shell out over £7000 or just over a couple of weeks wages :), I would really research and investigate what I was getting into and what I would be getting out of it

    I always say to people, think about the hobby you have, look how long it took to be good at it and that is something you are probably really interesting in, remember the books you read on it in the beginning and the hours you listened to others with experience ,then think how long it took you to put it all into practice, to learn the little tricks and mistakes you still made, mistakes you have to make, to learn, you soon realise you can not learn any profession in such a short period

    Slowly the puddles become smaller but until they do you need an experienced person by your side showing you the best way to mop up

    £7000 is a lot of money but it can not mop up a lot


    Last edited: Mar 19, 2011
  9. GQuigley67

    GQuigley67 UK Plumbersforums Trusted Advisor.

    here's another bit of info

    Fast Track Plumber Training - Beware

    now I've came across these 2 pages with only about an hour or so of research, why don't these people do the same ?
  10. fuzzy

    fuzzy Guest

    "organisations advertising themselves, quite legally, as City & Guilds registered, but they are not registered to deliver the specific plumbing qualification so the learner cannot be certified"

    my point when people come on here saying "i have a city and guilds" a city and guids what?
  11. fuzzy

    fuzzy Guest

    and that latest one is 5 years old!
  12. BOD

    BOD Administrator

  13. fuzzy

    fuzzy Guest

    lol, loks like another who has given up and wrote off their 7/8k
  14. Bartdude

    Bartdude Plumbers Arms member

  15. Gray0689

    Gray0689 UK Plumbersforums Trusted Advisor.

    Few decent items in that lot to
  16. plumbster3456

    plumbster3456 New Member

    bye the things i hear on here I think this has already happened down south I bet its actually homeowners who are doing these courses as they are terrified that they are going to get another cowboy dong work in there homes lol.
  17. Dannypipe

    Dannypipe UK Plumbersforums Trusted Advisor.

    What bothers me, is that they sell finance to these people, telling them they'll be earning so much, that they'll probably pay it off early.

    I met a bloke who was about 40 years old, and had borrowed nearly 13K (yes 13,000) to go from nothing to Gas Safe Registered.

    He fell at the first hurdle when he didn't read the small print, and realised it was down to him to find someone to sign of his portfolios, his NVQ 2, his NVQ 3 and his gas portfolio.

    He was in the merchants begging people to let him tag along for free. He bent my ear for half hour and I realised nice as he was, he'd slow me down too much, and when he finally did have the experience, he'd leave and pitch up as my competitor. So I along with everyone else I saw declined.

    What's he up to now I wonder? My guess is he went back to his old job, and licked his wounds. Must still be making his payments.

    The funny thing to me is, we're just plumbers, not premier league footballers. There's no glamour in our work. The money can be ok, but its not epic by any means.

    People believe everything they read in the papers. So frankly if they're foolish enough to listen to the speil, and not see through it, then they have themselves to blame, at least partly.
    Last edited: Mar 21, 2011
  18. plumbster3456

    plumbster3456 New Member

    lol 13 grand to go to college then? no apprenticeship nothing at all except a seat in a classroom come on guys surely there isnt people crazy enough to do this.
    plumbing is no gold mine if you want this become a banker,, some plumbers earn good money but these are the ones that are very good and this you wont be bye doing one of these courses.
    I think it is actually a con why is the government or trading standards not investigating these colleges who do this to people ?
  19. fuzzy

    fuzzy Guest

    met someone the other day who had spent 10k and had his 6129 level 2 and 3. he was doing the same, desperate for a placement to get his nvq;s. How do these people continue to fall for the rubbish they are told? they fall for the promise of money, heres to another one dropping out with 10k less than he started with
  20. Bartdude

    Bartdude Plumbers Arms member

    Exactly.It can be a good living,but we all know how hard you have to work for it.

    My brother-in-law runs a computer games company,and he's the one earning top money,not me!

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