Ideal Vogue Have A Look

[TBServices]

tb take it you need to be a installer for them

You need to be Vaillant advance but it doesn't take much, just a days free course. It's a decent scheme, get rewards etc, although not as good as ideals installer connect.

 

[smtplumbing]

thats what i am on ideal install so close to a ipad lol

 

[TBServices]

thats what i am on ideal install so close to a ipad lol

Haha, I'd have to save my points for a 64gb one, my 16 isn't big enough anymore

 

[petercj]

all right guys spoke to the rep today and he has sent me over the details for the vogue, defo looks like a valiant

Home - Discover Vogue

That looks really good - AND it says manufactured in Britain: excellent, so nice to see that.

Hopefully they will get the pricing right - seems a tad optimistic to leap from 'budget class' to premium prices in one massive leap, even if it is a match for the Deutsch competition.

Everything from toothpaste to motor cars is sold "on offer" these days, so perhaps they are starting high so that they can roll out various offers.

Would be nice to see BG making it their first-choice boiler - Centrica have done well out of exploiting the title of British Gas, so how about backing a boiler Made in Britain?

Hope they get the pricing right, and I look forward to seeing it knock a big hole in the sale of German made boilers.

Rock on Tommy!

 

[smtplumbing]

right guys the price i got was 26kw combi £877 + vat 32kw 975 + vat 40 kw 1090 + vat the flue is a extra £40 +vat for the 24 mech clock its £31.12 + vat And Dig clock 60.42 + vat

 

[Howsie]

Right up there with Vaillant and a little cheaper than WB then.

 

[smtplumbing]

non discounted so am i told

 

[jefaz]

a little too high those prices for me!!
we all know the isars reputation and maybe some customers do too,try selling them an ideal for about 1200 nicka

 

[TBServices]

They won't sell. And even plumb centres non discountable products are discountable if you try hard enough.

 

[jefaz]

a little too high those prices for me!!
we all know the isars reputation and maybe some customers do too,try selling them an ideal for about 1200 nicka

saying as ive been getting baxi duo tec 2's with flue and tf1 for 685+
i shall not be changing soon

 

[TBServices]

saying as ive been getting baxi duo tec 2's with flue and tf1 for 685+
i shall not be changing soon

They're in a diff league!

 

[jefaz]

not necessarily!!
this boiler could be an isar mk2,we dont know how its going to stand up under sustained use in the market place!
i dont think it will be bad but we never know so cant say a duo tec 2 is in a diff league when none of us has seen these vogues fitted imo

 

[Ray Stafford]

right guys the price i got was 26kw combi £877 + vat 32kw 975 + vat 40 kw 1090 + vat the flue is a extra £40 +vat for the 24 mech clock its £31.12 + vat And Dig clock 60.42 + vat

Right up there with Vaillant and a little cheaper than WB then.

I make it quite a lot more than the equivalent Vaillant, unless you are comparing it with the Exclusive? And the 32 kw (which will be the biggest seller) marginally more than the Cdi 34.

That sounds a bit ambitious to me, although with restricted production, I guess there is no point in them selling them cheap. My understanding is that Ideal have sold the entire initial production run into Plumbs and PTS, so at this stage, they have no reason to discount it. If it sticks on the shelf at those prices, expect to see a voucher cash-back promotion in the late spring/early summer. Thats the usual tactic that manufacturers use when they need to get stock off merchants shelves into the market.

 

[Howsie]

Which model V are you comparing Ray?

 

[Ray Stafford]

Which model V are you comparing Ray?

Ecotec Plus 831 (biggest selling Vaillant by far) vs 32kw Vogue.

 

[TBServices]

There better be a shed load of installer points for these!

 

[JJ The Plumber]

At those prices I think I'll be sticking with logic plus and if customer wants 7 year warranty then add £100

 

[vern]

Be interested to see how how the WB CDI compact fits in amongst all this price wise!! Only 690 x 390 x 280 mm deep same depth as RI!

 

[smtplumbing]

when is the worcester compact due out

 

[Ray Stafford]

when is the worcester compact due out

Any minute now apparently.

 

[Howsie]

Ecotec Plus 831 (biggest selling Vaillant by far) vs 32kw Vogue.

I see.

 

[vern]

when is the worcester compact due out

its been coming for 6 months, I think they added a lot more when they heard of vogue and rest of competition offering matching 7 year warranties also

 

[gasmanrob]

worcester are difficult enough to work on as it is without removing half the poxy boiler. Let alone this compact thing. I think Worcester had the market but have forgotten the installer/service engineer along the way. They are a nice bit of engineering don't get me wrong.
However everyone I speak to now is installing logic+ myself included but we won't know if they are truly any good for another 7 years.
the baxi's are a Lovely boiler to work on once installed but like the Worcester you spend more time building it then you do plumbing it.
Someone also mentioned ideals poor performing pcb's on the icos/isar. Let's not forget Baxi/Potterton aren't exactly known for there pcb's reliability of late. That said they are a lot cheaper to replace.
every boiler no matter what price you pay has it's own problems including ze germans. As long as your doing a good and a thorough install and putting in a boiler your proud to put your name against I would say it comes down to makers competitive pricing, installer support and customer care that will win people round

 

[sam51]

keep your wb.ideal,and valliants, viessmans al the way.

 

[dancinplumba]

right guys the price i got was 26kw combi £877 + vat 32kw 975 + vat 40 kw 1090 + vat the flue is a extra £40 +vat for the 24 mech clock its £31.12 + vat And Dig clock 60.42 + vat

shhhh its an open forum do you want your custs to know how much you pay ???

 

[AJBH]

right guys the price i got was 26kw combi £877 + vat 32kw 975 + vat 40 kw 1090 + vat the flue is a extra £40 +vat for the 24 mech clock its £31.12 + vat And Dig clock 60.42 + vat

Hi everyone

 

[FD Powerflow]

saying as ive been getting baxi duo tec 2's with flue and tf1 for 685+
i shall not be changing soon

Is that the one from Crossling?

 

[dancinplumba]

Cant see the point of putting prices up what you pay in an open forum. anyone can read this, even your clients

 

[AWheating]

if my last customer is on the forum id like to say that the worcester bosch 30cdi costs around £3000 with trade discount

 

[vern]

CDi compact will be solar compatible, with a valve as an option kit, very little details so far, I think only Alpha do this currently? Any others?

Software menus are mental, everything is covered I think the installer menus will take a fair bit of training for GSR's to get their heads round! Most can't do the existing CDi's

Will get hands on one and a few beers too on a model launch night on the 13th of Feb :cuss:

 

[Garnham02]

The new ideal Vogue boilers are great I have now fitted 10 and these baby's rock give one ago also speak to your rep about getting the extra 100 cash back

 

[dancinplumba]

no

 

[TBServices]

The new ideal Vogue boilers are great I have now fitted 10 and these baby's rock give one ago also speak to your rep about getting the extra 100 cash back

We'll agree to disagree. Fitted one and won't be fitting any more.

Will ask rep about cash back though lol.

 

[smtplumbing]

tb services what was up7

 

[TBServices]

tb services what was up7

Poor HW performance. It's being rectified now though