id/ar/ntcs

[leadlock]

so what are your guys thoughts on the new "less complicated" system coming this june,for reporting/recording faults.
myself i find it utter bollards,but hey ho someone higher thought it was good.

my understanding is now(or come june)

ID =cap off(isolate),how your still alive is amazing,who the fudge did this for you.
AR=turn off,its bad but not really bad.
AR=leave on,and label as bad but wont kill you.
NTCS= gone no such thing anymore,is now a defect or AR and leave on.

 

[dancinplumba]

Ntcs hasn't disappeared, just how it's reported

 

[snowhead]

And here's me thinking it came in LAST June.

 

[Riley]

It's been overly complicated and I know loads of guys in the trade that don't even know about it

 

[leadlock]

Ntcs hasn't disappeared, just how it's reported

come June its gone "apparently"

 

[snowhead]

From GIUSP edition 7,, June 2015.

 

[leadlock]

It's been overly complicated and I know loads of guys in the trade that don't even know about it

apprently no one does ,because there is 3 seprate documents at moment all legal,which state different reqs,but come june NTCS is gone

 

[leadlock]

From GIUSP edition 7,, June 2015.

View attachment 25998

fudge it am going to become a jellyfish salesman in greenland

 

[kirkgas]

Leadlock what are the 3 documents?
I see GIUSP Ed 6 and Ed 7.1, you can use 6 until July 1st then you must use 7.1

It couldn't be more straight forward, the big change is how we communicate NCS, nothing more nothing less, it's been removed from the GIUSP (the P Being procedure, which means the way we deal with dangerous things, as it isn't dangerous it makes sense) so in essence we still tell people about NCS but not on a warning notice, it shouldnt require so much talking

 

[Millsy 82]

I think they got rid of the wrong one. They should of got rid of AR and make it more like an mot with advisory and fail.

 

[Riley]

Leadlock what are the 3 documents?
I see GIUSP Ed 6 and Ed 7.1, you can use 6 until July 1st then you must use 7.1

It couldn't be more straight forward, the big change is how we communicate NCS, nothing more nothing less, it's been removed from the GIUSP (the P Being procedure, which means the way we deal with dangerous things, as it isn't dangerous it makes sense) so in essence we still tell people about NCS but not on a warning notice, it shouldnt require so much talking

That's really clearly put Kirk, thank you. In terms of communicating NTCS what is the common thoughts on communicating for example doing a landlords gas safety and the only people you deal with are the tenants or the letting agent. If it is only a vocal communication letting agents never pass this information on to their landlord. Plus there is no proof that you've given this information. I am not trying to put the cat amongst the pigeons I am just curious about how other people deal with this situation

 

[mickie]

When writing out a cp12 just write the ncs faults down on the job sheet to cover your back, not on another form and talk to someone about it, they'll give you glazed eyes, but atleast you'll be covered incase nothing happens...

 

[hammers4spanner]

I think they got rid of the wrong one. They should of got rid of AR and make it more like an mot with advisory and fail.

Bang on the button being saying that for ages about AR.
Problem being no matter how much you explain it customers don't get it especially if its been like it for a while .
To me just ID AND ADVISORY NOTICES