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[solutions]

Rogue installers / service providers and cowboys qualified or otherwise are the problem not materials and techniques. We need a standards and regs policing body with real powers to condemn instalations over defects of all kinds and hold those responsible to account.

 

[BN9Pete]

Another quick install :hand:

 

[BN9Pete]

I'm glad this horror is a ' hide away ' cistern. :thinking:

 

[happyflyer]

Rogue installers / service providers and cowboys qualified or otherwise are the problem not materials and techniques. We need a standards and regs policing body with real powers to condemn instalations over defects of all kinds and hold those responsible to account.

Sol,

I think everyone will agree with your sentiments, alas its never going to happen

 

[happyflyer]

I'm glad this horror is a ' hide away ' cistern. :thinking:

You have got to give them marks for trying, it's ingenious to say the least

 

[stevetheplumber]

Rogue installers / service providers and cowboys qualified or otherwise are the problem not materials and techniques. We need a standards and regs policing body with real powers to condemn instalations over defects of all kinds and hold those responsible to account.

thats never going to happen the gas side is regulated to within an inch of its life and the most popular page in the gas installer mag is the bad installs page
all regulation does is cost the good guys more and give the cowboys even more profit

 

[happyflyer]

thats never going to happen the gas side is regulated to within an inch of its life and the most popular page in the gas installer mag is the bad installs page
all regulation does is cost the good guys more and give the cowboys even more profit

topman Steve I will bet you are right, a very enlightening slant to GSR Steve

 

[plumben]

Rogue installers / service providers and cowboys qualified or otherwise are the problem not materials and techniques. We need a standards and regs policing body with real powers to condemn instalations over defects of all kinds and hold those responsible to account.

As true as it is there'd still be cowboys avoiding the system and we'd all end up having to pay for an inspection putting our prices up for the privilege just because we do the job right

 

[solutions]

thats never going to happen the gas side is regulated to within an inch of its life and the most popular page in the gas installer mag is the bad installs page
all regulation does is cost the good guys more and give the cowboys even more profit

I agree no further regulation for gas or any other plumbing is required. Just need to police it. My comments were as a reply to the post showing an abysmal unvented instalation aparently completed by a gsr still trading in the area. How is this allowed to continue. What are the regs good for if they cant even keep registered guys to maintain the standard or allow guys who cant work to the required standard to be registered in the first place.

 

[jonny5isalive]

Speaking of regulations and cowboys. A self certified install that had a completly unclipped flue with sections that werent even screwed together. There was two sections of flue that were lying in the loft that had obviously been cut too short and had to be discarded. The boiler was in a bedroom. The return iso had been left almost fully closed so it had leaked and scaled up and the pump was burned out.

The prv was left open out the bottom of the boiler. Probably because the boiler is in the middle of the house and they couldnt be bothered to run any pipe.

Was only put in in 2010.

Looked up the company that signed it off to get them to remedy and theyre not gas safe registered anymore and the limited company is getting liquidated as far as i can tell.

So will the customer get any recompense. Even if they are gas safe then all they have to do is rectify their mistakes and tgey get left alone. Surely they should have a fine or some other disincentive from shoddy and/or dangerous work. Otherwise they can go round doing good knows what and only having to rectify it when they get caught.

Customer, is rightly, pretty disillusioned with the system. He doesnt seem to be protected at all and will just have to pay out to remedy himself i imagine . He bought the house 3 years ago with the install in already .

 

[jonny5isalive]

Hob on flexi as ever. The run to this point was clipped about 3 metres away and then had been plastered into the corner of the room

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I dug it out to verify the it was soldered not compression, clipped the pipe and fitted a fixed connection with iso into the tiny space behind the oven.

 

[jonny5isalive]

Had another last week where the gas was run in 15mm almost straight from the boiler for an equivalent of about 20 metres as it went along the floor and then up the wall and over and down. Baxi solo 3 60pfl. Was 11 mbar at gas valve, 13 with adjustment. Had been given a safety certificate in january when vendor bought the place..... Reran straight in 22.

 

[Ermintrude]

Found this beauty today. Services boiler, oh prv not connected..... Oh flue turret not fixed properly..... Go outside and she says the window fitter did that and said it was ok? Just needed a service?

Oh and two of mutleys "do they need a trim" specials

 

[kris]

Found this beauty today. Services boiler, oh prv not connected..... Oh flue turret not fixed properly..... Go outside and she says the window fitter did that and said it was ok? Just needed a service?

Oh and two of mutleys "do they need a trim" specials

Few peachers there ermi, the bottom one with the 2 flues thats just priceless

 

[dm65]

Does this count ??

 

[Ermintrude]

What as? Art? At least there is 1.50mm between gas and electrical switch gear

 

[dm65]

It is currently in use and BG are happy with it

I say its in use, it is now me and a friend found the dodgy connection to the bedroom socket that was stopping it from firing successfully :thinking:

 

[dm65]

Here's another - surely this is ok ?

 

[plumben]

Nice bit of spf there

 

[Ermintrude]

That's practically perfect no flexi in sight
Bent with a spring ooh baby

 

[dm65]

Sorry, don't even know what spf is :confused5:

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

Sorry, don't even know what spf is :confused5:

makes 2 of us

 

[dm65]

Ok, last one then i'll let someone else get a word in

I have posted this on another thread so you may have seen it before

 

[Irish]

makes 2 of us

3 of us

 

[Ermintrude]

Oooh new drill?

 

[Irish]

Ok, last one then i'll let someone else get a word in

I have posted this on another thread so you may have seen it before

flash git !! showing off your new dril

 

[dm65]

Oooh new drill?

You're joking - 9 years old and is a little (big and heavy) beaut

 

[Irish]

You're joking - 9 years old and is a little (big and heavy) beaut

shhhhhhhhhhiiiiiiiiitttt how much time do you spend cleaning it?

 

[Ermintrude]

Don't believe you those batteries ain't 9 weeks old and u got plug guard on!

 

[plumben]

Sorry, don't even know what spf is :confused5:

Speed fit pipe/plastic pipe,
its the abbreviation my local merchant uses

 

[dm65]

I'm only diy so it doesn't get the abuse you guys would give it but it's been used for fitting outside taps, 20mm holes through walls for cables etc

I won't tell you about using it as a wrench when it wouldn't drive 2 concrete screws all the way home - dammit

 

[dm65]

Speed fit pipe/plastic pipe,
its the abbreviation my local merchant uses

Ah, thanks, I won't feel so daft next time

 

[Ermintrude]

Was that boiler in your house then?

 

[dm65]

Don't believe you those batteries ain't 9 weeks old and u got plug guard on!

second set of batteries and my ocd forces me to put the guard back on every time

it's elder sister, a little 14.4v gets treat the same

 

[dm65]

Was that boiler in your house then?

yes - emergency move into a bit of a run down place but get cheap rent as I will put up with and fix issues to make it safe(r)

that boiler is still in my place - I know not to tackle something like that