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  1. townfanjon

    townfanjon Trusted Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    Mr Wormwood , you are out of order disagreeing with my thread closed statement , you are clearly "picking everybodys brains" on here , I saw this thread develop and thats why I left it alone . Leave the gas alone !!!!!!
     
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  2. Wormwood

    Wormwood New Member

    What's the point of the forum if people can't come here and ask for advice!

    The reason I disagreed with your post 33 is that it agreed with Chalked, who said in post 31 that I should use a GSR. I have already stated countless times that I will not touch the gas myself and will use a GSR!!!

    I am trying to establish whether there is an alternative to running 20 feet of 22mm pipe on the outside of the house, across two doors, one window and through one gate. This was the only solution offered by the installer mentioned in post 13.

    He was wrong. The solution is to find the 22-15 reducer, which I now know is on the inside of the house. I also know, thanks to the helpful people here (Shaun, Snowhead, GH77 & kop, etc), that I could stick with 15mm if the pressure drop does not exceed regs, or contradict the new boiler's pipe spec.
     
  3. masons

    masons gashead GSR

    really !
     
  4. jtsplumbing

    jtsplumbing Plumber GSR

    Question you say that you have a glow worm Balanced Flue boiler, is this a standard boiler with hot water tank ? and is it being replaced (Upgraded to a combi) ? or are you just having a boiler swap ?
     
  5. Wormwood

    Wormwood New Member

    Yes, I've got a bog-standard Glow-worm Fuelsaver MkII with HW cylinder & immersion heater in airing cupboard and a small F&E tank in the loft. New boiler will be a straight swap - it won't be a combi (partly because the cylinder, pump, motorised valve & tankstat etc have already been changed for new ones).
     
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  6. Matchless.plumb

    Matchless.plumb Trusted Plumber Top Contributor!!

    If you are really going to hire a fully gas qualified engineer then you could ask him directly as he will surely give you then an update on your questions.
     
  7. Wormwood

    Wormwood New Member

    I have (Friday) and he did. He said the only way to find the existing 22mm pipe run is to lift the floorboards on the 1st floor. Chipboard t&g (nailed down of course, just to make life easy).
     
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  8. kris

    kris Trusted Plumber GSR

    Right wormwood your fine asking advice of course , anything we can help with is no problem but when asking about gas and pressures it does ring alarm bells as so many diyers out there , I know u worked or work on rigs and say u won't touch it but that doesn't prove anything as it's only words , everything your asking about should be spoken with your engineer , if you disagree with an engineers advice about upgrading pipe sizes then I can assure you that it's really common nowadays because of the gas consumption difference between older boilers and new condensers , as for members that are posting picks of test procedures , yes this thread should be closed me thinks , I agree with chalked and John,
     
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  9. Wormwood

    Wormwood New Member

    Right kris. I have not disagreed with an engineer's advice about pipe sizes. I have disagreed with first engineer's advice that the only option is to run the pipe on the outside of the house (post 37).

    Fact: there are two options - inside and outside.

    Inside is the advice given by the engineer on Friday and this is the route he will use. End of.

    Btw, If I say I won't touch something - it means I won't touch something. Full stop.
     
  10. Wormwood

    Wormwood New Member

    I have asked admin for this thread to be closed.
     
    Last edited: Jul 23, 2017
  11. GH77

    GH77 GSR Top Contributor!!

    The picture I posted doesn't tell you how to carry out a procedure, it does clarify that what the gsr said about pressures is correct, was used to reassure that the gsr does know what he's talking about . the common theme on this thread is people continuously stating " use a gsr" and wormwood saying he will . but yes now the thread should be closed before it all gets too heated
     
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  12. Wormwood

    Wormwood New Member

    Exactly, well said GH77.
     
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  13. kris

    kris Trusted Plumber GSR

    No need to get offensive mate , I've been quite polite to yourself, but saying you will or won't touch something doesn't give the go ahead to discuss matters which the forum rules clearly state not to, like I said wormwood were happy to advise but when u start getting into gas pressure testing or similar then it conversations you have with your engineer , I wish u good luck with your project ,
     
  14. kris

    kris Trusted Plumber GSR

    Right mate so post 11 doesn't explain anything, I never mentioned your name so don't presume I did thanks
     
  15. kris

    kris Trusted Plumber GSR

    Please look at the top if this page FLASHING IN RED appearing on the page now and again, we won't give advise related to gas , now we will try give advice even when bridging onto the gas topic but when it starts to get past threshold barrier then we all play by the rules,
     
  16. GH77

    GH77 GSR Top Contributor!!

    It states the pressures, doesn't state how to carry out the test . that document is readily available to anyone with access to Google . i'm now done with this thread . i'm not getting anti or anything i like your input on other threads and respect you as an industry professional
     
  17. ShaunCorbs

    ShaunCorbs S. Mod Trusted Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    Didn't you see the new rules kris we help these days instead of just having mods close threads

    I would say if he was going to try and do something himself which I'm not condoning or suggesting and it's breaking the law and throws your home insurance out the window that no one could stop him and fyi all my info is in the manufacturers instructions so not hard to find

    Education and understanding over just having a go I think is the way to go and it's been made clear all the way down the line your require a gas safe engy to do anything related to gas

    Also a little question for you

    Your working in someone's house and they ask you what your doing and a few questions would you answer them or say no only for a gas safe engy to know

    Shaun out
     
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  18. kris

    kris Trusted Plumber GSR

    Wow I'm banging my head , deaf ears ,,,
    I know we help Shaun but your twisting the hole thing , if I'm working in someone's house then they HAVE A GSR THERE, THEY ARENT GOING TO TRY THEMSELVES IF IM DOING IT, , Also
    Shaun I know we don't close as many as croppie used to and it's more laxed but why o why does it flash across the top of the forum in RED , we don't give advice on Gas , if the rules changed that wouldn't flash , please scroll up to the top and wait till it appears,
    Like I said I'll easy help even with gas until it passes the threshold , I'm out
     
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  19. rpm

    rpm Trusted Plumber Top Contributor!!

    Before it is closed would you give me your full names, dob and the pin number to your credit card?
    Promise I wont use it.;)
     
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  20. ShaunCorbs

    ShaunCorbs S. Mod Trusted Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    I get where your coming from but your still giving info out and these days with everything on line it's not hard to find info, if anyone's going to mess with gas don't think a thread closure or banning will stop them

    Gas safe won't do anything hs won't either non of the regulating bodies do, until you stop the sale of gas products to the public you won't do any dent

    Last post on the matter don't see anything unsafe in my posts op was just asking

    Guess we will just have to either disagree and move on

    @Lou@Lou if you would like to clean any of my posts / delete them all together if they breach any of the forum rules go ahead
     
  21. Matchless.plumb

    Matchless.plumb Trusted Plumber Top Contributor!!

    You again have disagreed and it will happen more often because it seems a little bit odd that you want to know things in detail. It's fine with us but it has to be asked outside of this forum when your gas safe installer comes. He will surely explain you all you need to know. It is a public forum and people on he will give you as much as advise which is needed anything regarding gas will be not answered as matter of safety. Do not take things wrong it's just a safety reason that's all it is.

    We hope we still could help you.

    Kind beards,

    Ron
     
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  22. GH77

    GH77 GSR Top Contributor!!

    Same as Shaun, if i've broken any forum rules then I would like clarification from the administration . unlike Shaun i'm new to the site, so I would like official clarification if i'm in the wrong .. if i am then i will hold my hands up and take it on the chin like a big boy . i only want to help out
     
  23. kris

    kris Trusted Plumber GSR

    Wow getting admin involved ,,it's getting petty like children, it makes the visit to the forum less enjoyable,
     
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  24. kris

    kris Trusted Plumber GSR

    Well said ron
     
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  25. jtsplumbing

    jtsplumbing Plumber GSR

    Ok what about you get the new boiler fitted to the excising gas supply and if its within guide lines all well and good, but with the understanding that if not ! then there will be an extra charge to upgrade the supply pipe,
     
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  26. kris

    kris Trusted Plumber GSR


    Firstly let me start by stating I wasnt a fan of how too many threads used to get closed too easy , the simple mention of gas was mental , I believe it's the same as an engineers call , you know how far to advise in relation to gas, in the past there have been so many folks wanting to know things about gas piping , boiler fixing and fitting and obviously any of that is a no no , but as far as explaining gas pressures etc I feel that's a conversation an op should have with his/ her gsr engineer, They could go online and look up anything to do with gas yes , even boiler breakdown instructions, so we should tell them because they can find it online anyway , no I disagree, , sometimes folks want an answer so they can do the work themselves , now I'm not meaning wormwood I'm being hypothetical, I dare say that's why we need to judge ourselves how far we go with info on open forums,
     
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  27. GH77

    GH77 GSR Top Contributor!!

    Nothing wrong with healthy debate, nothing wrong with disagreeing with one another so long as there is respect and I said that I respect you Kris .

    You've asked if the top of the forum flashing red means rules are being broken? . and as i'm new to the forum then i'd like to know too .. surely the only place to get a definitive answer is admin?
     
  28. kris

    kris Trusted Plumber GSR

    The thing is gh77 there isn't a definitive answer , it's like an engineers call, we need to determine how far in depth you help visitors out, my belief is we help as much as we can until they want to know how to do gas work that they are having done in there home , sometimes that means folks want an answer to break the law and find out how to do it themselves ,
     
  29. GH77

    GH77 GSR Top Contributor!!

    Okay, that's fair enough . I feel that the information I gave was a confirmation that his gsr was competent and why . I don't feel that it informed him how to carry out a working Gas pressure test at the meter and/or boiler as that would be too much information in my opinion...

    I most certainly agree that this forum should be fun though :)
     
  30. kris

    kris Trusted Plumber GSR

    There was nothing wrong with your post , never said there was mate
    When a visitor comes on here and starts asking gas related queries especially when they say they are getting the work done in his or her home, and we say ask your gas safe registered engineer and they say things like Ive one coming tomorrow or next week then you can usually tell if they just want a wee bit further knowledge so that they understand more about the setup so they can have a proper understanding conversation when the engineer arrives , these are the ones that aren't too in depth on gas then there are ones who ask because they intend to do work themselves and want to find out by us how to do it, I've ALWAYS tried to help as much as possible
     
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  31. townfanjon

    townfanjon Trusted Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    @Lou@Lou .. Please close this one
     
  32. Lou

    Lou Administrator Admin Top Contributor!!

    Done
     
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