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  1. babbster

    babbster New Member

    i have recently had to fix a leak on a section of old copper pipe. the pipe is slightly bigger than 22mm and is thick enough to have had a thread put on it. any ideas how to replace a section with 22mm copper?
    there has been mention of a transitional coupling, however this a DHW pipe
     
  2. Gasmk1

    Gasmk1 GSR

    it is probaly 3/4" copper you can get 3/4 to 22 soldered
    couplings
     
  3. ShaunCorbs

    ShaunCorbs Trusted Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    3/4 copper is smaller than 22mm not bigger
     
  4. Last Plumber

    Last Plumber Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    It might be the really really old stuff before 3/4
    It was more like 1/2" iron for size O.D.

    Last time I dealt with it I think I soldered or brazed a female iron to copper on the end of it.
    If it is that stuff ( and it sounds like it ) you won't find a manufactured fitting for it.
     
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  5. Last Plumber

    Last Plumber Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    Measure O D and post the size.

    Can you not replace it all ?
     
  6. Ray Stafford

    Ray Stafford Well-Known Member

    Use a drift or socket former to create a socket in the end of the old pipe, and then solder 22mm pipe into it.
     
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    Last edited: Oct 4, 2016
  7. Chalked

    Chalked Plumber GSR


    A drift won't work Ray. It sounds like screwed copper, it it slightly larger than 22mm. Normally found in old high end houses. Nobody makes a transition fitting, and the threads are " fine taper" so BSP is nowhere near. The copper is as thick as galvanised pipe, so great for scrap.
    The times I have connected to it, we used a 1"BSP male to 22 mm compression fitting. The 1" thread will slide over the pipe and either solder it using leaded solder ( I know!!) or better still hard solder or braze. Then you have a 22mm compression end to go off.
     
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  8. chris watkins

    chris watkins Plumber

    There speaks a proper plumber. IMHO

    Problem what problem !

    With his skills & knowledge he can adapt, repair, overcome & only if absolutely necessary replace to fix the problem.
     
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  9. Ray Stafford

    Ray Stafford Well-Known Member

    Every day's a school day! I don't think I have ever seen that type of pipe.
     
  10. Gasmk1

    Gasmk1 GSR

    i have never come across that size or type of copper before must be from the 40's or 50's ?
     
  11. Chalked

    Chalked Plumber GSR

    This is the only image I can find on google. This pipe is brass, but it's the same for copper and they have brass fittings.
    image.jpg
     
  12. babbster

    babbster New Member

    Thank you
    will give it a try tomorrow, exactly as you said, old high end house
     
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  13. Masood

    Masood Guest

    Came across this pipe in the Leicestershire area (if it's the same stuff). Heavy gauge copper, screwed. It's called 20-gauge and you can buy compression and end-feed transition couplings for it. The end-feed couplings are brass and cost a fortune but it means you can convert to 15mm or 22mm and weigh in the old stuff...
     
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