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  1. kasser

    kasser Member

    I had a gas engineer move a gas pipe for me. He said no certificate was needed afterwards. Is that correct?
    More generally, when does a certificate need to be issued when working on gas? It would be useful for the public to know what to expect...
     
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  2. Darren Jackson

    Darren Jackson Plumber GSR

    We do not need to produce a certificate unless we are doing a gas safety inspection or It is a notifiable installation like a new boiler, or you have asked specifically for one. I personally always give a certificate for any gas works I do, and I suspect the majority of engineers will produce a certificate for the works. But a receipt describing the work undertaken will often suffice. As long as you have a receipt, it is proof that the work was carried out by a gas safe engineer.
     
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  3. ShaunCorbs

    ShaunCorbs S. Mod Trusted Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    Yep as above no requirement to give one but it's peace of mind
     
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  4. Harvest Fields

    Harvest Fields Trusted Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    I just write the customer a receipt. This should be proof enough as long as it has the tightness test readings on it.
     
  5. kasser

    kasser Member

    I paid cash and there was no receipt...
     
  6. Harvest Fields

    Harvest Fields Trusted Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    Ask him for one.
     
  7. kasser

    kasser Member

    The price for the job was low because it was all in cash, if you see what I mean...
     
  8. scott_d

    scott_d Plumber GSR

    Was he gas safe registered?
     
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    Darren Jackson Plumber GSR

  10. ShaunCorbs

    ShaunCorbs S. Mod Trusted Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    Is he gas safe and have you confirmed this by checking his reg no on gas safes website?
     
  11. mfgs

    mfgs Plumber GSR

    No, what do you mean?
     
  12. oz-plumber

    oz-plumber Plumber

    So what are you saying?

    You had someone do some gas work for you, at some 'negotiated' cheap price, and now you want to have them held accountable for the work.

    There's more to this than what you're admitting to.

    Take it up with the relevant authorities - gas safe and take it up with the tax office.

    If it was me who did the work for you - I would ask for proof from you to prove I did the work.

    How could you prove that?

    Come clean with the situation and more help may be provided.
     
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  13. Chuck

    Chuck Active Member

    The price wasn't low because you now need to employ a legitimate Gas Safe plumber to inspect, and probably redo, the work.
     
  14. Harvest Fields

    Harvest Fields Trusted Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    This is why I never have and never will negotiate on price. All of my work goes through the tax man. So my price is my price no mater what. People like the engineer you use wind me up. If the price was not right in the first place it is always worth trying to find an engineer more in your price range that will still give you a receipt and still guarentee his or her work. I would be more careful in the future. Always make sure that anyone undertaking any gas work is qualified to do the work you want them to do before you agree for them to do it.
     
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  15. kasser

    kasser Member

    To all those who asked, yes, he is gas safe, I checked. But does being gas safe mean he's always going to hos job properly?
    I'm not saying his job is not good - I was just wonderingh in the first place if a cert is needed as there is nothing to trace the job back to him if something goes wrong.
    This is also more of a generic question about whether a cert is needed for this type of job, irrespective of who did it. But I think you answered that part already.
     
  16. mfgs

    mfgs Plumber GSR

    You lost the paper trail when you asked for a cheap cash job, of course he wont want to be traced back to it.
     
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  17. Harvest Fields

    Harvest Fields Trusted Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    That's why it was cheap:rolleyes:
     
  18. gas tec

    gas tec GSR

    They don't need to supply you with a certificate. You will have to trust he has done the job correctly, just because it's a "cash job" don't mean they have done less of a job.
    When you pay someone cash then you lose the paper trail as you surely would of known, you can't have the best of both worlds.
    Any decent tradesperson will return to a problem, paper trail or not.
     
  19. GH77

    GH77 GSR Top Contributor!!

    I use the digital manometer on my fga, it stores the test results and I give the printout to the customer, this has the instrument serial, calibration date plus date and time of the test. I ALWAYS carry out a let by and Tightness BEFORE breaking into the gas to make any alterations, then carry out another Tightness after the work is complete.
     
  20. firemant

    firemant Plumber GSR

    Kasser. Are you always eating your cake and expecting to keep it?
     
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  21. masons

    masons gashead GSR

    if you want a cert pay for it ;)