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Discuss Vibration in floor...boiler/water heater? at UK Plumbers Forums; Originally Posted by Riley where in Dorset are you I am there sporadically these days with work. If I can't help then I may be able to recommend somebody reliable ...
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    Default Re: Vibration in floor...boiler/water heater?

    Quote Originally Posted by Riley View Post
    where in Dorset are you I am there sporadically these days with work. If I can't help then I may be able to recommend somebody reliable to try and sort you out
    Thanks Riley

    I'm away for most of the next fortnight, so for now I just want to try and pinpoint in theory what might be going on, but I may get back to you and others here.

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    Ok an update. What can you gather from this so far?

    There are only 3 possible neighbours in my block, one below me, one next to me on the first floor and one below him.

    A lot of the time when I'm woken in the early hours both my next door (on my level) and the person beneath him are already up and getting ready for work (lights are on). The vibration often starts around or before this time. (it also sometimes goes like the clappers in the middle of the night, between midnight and four am sometimes continuously and it's like a mini earthquake in my flat).

    The person beneath me has been kind enough to check all appliances with me and none of them caused a vibration, BUT we haven't checked whether the night water heater is doing it because we couldn't check that during the day (apparently it comes on by itself and she doesn't touch it, even if going away).

    Here's something. A local plumber told me to watch two pipes on the front of my building. There was a long one that comes out of the wall of my flat and a short one, comes out of the wall of the downstairs flat. He said if either of them start dripping water when the vibration is taking place, it's a sign that someone's boiler is overheating.

    Well a couple of times in the middle of the night when there is a mini earthquake going on, I've gone out and the shorter pipe is leaking water, regularly dripping.

    Now in theory that would be coming from my downstairs neighbour's home, BUT I'm actually more of the belief that the vibration is coming from the flat next door, because it always seems to happen when that person is in or comes home and not otherwise.

    Before I call anyone out (and I'm away most of this week and next on work trips), any thoughts on this one? Could that short pipe, even though it seems to be coming out of the downstairs flat, be coming from my next door neighbour on my first floor level? What would it's leaking point to?

    This is starting to freak me out a bit because it really is intense at times (the last two nights in fact, perhaps due to drop in temperature) but all three neighbours say they don't feel or hear anything and I can't knock any of them up in the middle of the night yet, until I'm clearer on where it's coming from. Surely at some point something will give, my lounge floor and bedroom is vibrating intensely when it happens. I have a feeling my next door neighbour knows what it is as he seems to have avoided conversation about it with me. He also mentioned having had a valve replaced on his water heater and said he wished he could afford a new water heater. But of course it could be me just thinking that it's coming from there.

    On another note I haven't a clue what people are talking about when they mention the ball cock in a cistern, how could that, going below a certain level cause such intense (mini earthquake type) vibrations across my flat?

    Thanks for your time everyone.

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    Default Re: Vibration in floor...boiler/water heater?

    Now you're sounding like you have a pressure relief valve opening somewhere.

    That would sound like a pneumatic drill.

    Either a filling loop left open on a boiler or faulty unvented cylinder. If others can't hear it then I'm presuming it's your flat
    Really loud !

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    Default Re: Vibration in floor...boiler/water heater?

    What system do you have for heating and hot water.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Plumber View Post
    What system do you have for heating and hot water.?
    Heatrae Sadia, water heater....I also have storage heaters. Been keeping my water heater off during the night to be sure it's not mine..

    Yes, like pneumatic drill but not noise, not sound, you don't 'hear' you feel it, like a mini earthquake in the floor..sadly through the bed too

    Thanks :-)

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    Default Re: Vibration in floor...boiler/water heater?

    No noise, very weird!
    I'll give it more thought !

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    Default Re: Vibration in floor...boiler/water heater?

    I should say I'm not posting on here to try and save money or anything, I'd gladly pay someone to solve the problem.

    But I'm not sure how anyone can solve it if they visit me during normal sociable hours, because it's rarely happening then (although I could try a saturday, it was happening all day on saturday just gone). But even if I have a plumber come out on a saturday and they feel it, I'm guessing they won't know which neighbour it's coming from.

    Incidentally there is something that needs doing on my own water heater. My landlady's plumber is coming in a week to sort that, but he doesn't think it's necessarily the cause of the vibration, as that only seems to happen when a certain neighbour is home (and also, to be sure I'm keeping my water heater off all night and just heating up for 30 mins in the morning using the immersion for now)

    Thanks again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Plumber View Post
    No noise, very weird!
    I'll give it more thought !
    When I say no noise, if you listen there is a low level throbbing sound and if I put my ear to the wall of my neighbour there's a rumbling in the wall, but none of that is a problem at all, it's the intense vibration in my floor that is.

    Thanks for thinking it through, appreciate it!

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    Default Re: Vibration in floor...boiler/water heater?

    No worries!
    Have you got wooden floors ?

    It's not next doors washing machine on spin or anything daft like that is it ?

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    A man around the corner is a structural engineer and he came in one lunchtime just to have a look around, he said 'well you've got concrete floors.' No idea how he knew, but apparently it's concrete floors, lol.

    He had no idea but said if he had to guess it would be something to do with drainage. To me it sounds far too active for drainage. It does sound like a washing machine on a spin cycle but it's not because it goes on all day at weekends sometimes and during the week nights it goes on too long. Also the neighbour's have all said they are not using their washing machines in the early hours or after midnight. I believe them on that one.

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    Default Re: Vibration in floor...boiler/water heater?

    Do you live near anything like a quarry or busy motorway ?
    Or anywhere where drilling is active ?

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    Default Re: Vibration in floor...boiler/water heater?

    Quote Originally Posted by Last Plumber View Post
    Do you live near anything like a quarry or busy motorway ?
    Or anywhere where drilling is active ?
    No, thanks for considering it but it's not outside of the flats. I'm in a rural town and been here for ten years. No quarry, not the railway...

    To me the biggest clue are that it occurs whena certain neighbour is in, occurs late at night and early hours ofthe morning and a pipe is leaking at the front of the building whenit's at it's worst (very intense in the middle of the night, between1am and 4am)


    Thanks again :-)

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