Attention..AJS Heating!!!!

[spacethegas]

Originally Posted by Rupster

I bet fast track plumbers can spell though!!!

i think you will find spelling is hardly a prerequisite.

[dennis.bailey]

hi, new to this site but to be honest i agree with ajs

I started plumbing working weekends with my dad at 14. when i was old enough to start college (16) i did, and completed my nvq level 2. I then did my nvq level 3, energy efficiency, corgi, and unvented. This was on a day release basis, where by every thursday i would go to college and learn the in's and out's of the jobs i did on site. as for the practiacal side of things, the only way is the hard way, hands on! working for my dad, we both addopt the same attitiude, that is we only give each other jobs we are happy to do our selfs. this meant that as soon as i started college/work, i was given responsibility. not sweeping up all day and making tea like people assume apprentices to. colleges can teach you how things are suppose to work, how to install pipework etc, but they cant teach you anything like the things i picked up on the tools.

from a future employer's point of view, the only people i will be employing are trust worthy, confident, willing to learn types regardless of age. the problem is, that most 25+ people want good money for nothing, whereas young 16+ people will graft and earn there wages, and such are more employable. not people who come from behind a desk wanting a fast buck.

i dont know many accountants etc who would swap there office job to work in someones loft for a day, in 30degrees+ heat, rubbing fibre glass into there skin as you rub the sweat away, trying to earn your '80K' a year.

where i live, (on the east coast) there's no shortage of plumbers. the only shortage is of good, honest plumbers. every day i see the here one minute gone the next plumbers, they dont last five minutes because there lack of experience and knowledge rubs off on there quality of work. i love it, it gets us loads of work!

good on ya dennis, glad to see we are getting somewhere with this topic.

[TerryH]

I'm an ex-fast-track man, 20 weeks, C&G at the end.
At 50 I have a good deal of experience and come from a practical background in property maintenance and aircraft engineering.

What do I want from plumbing?
£50k a year.... not gonna happen.
No, I'd like to become a tradesman, good, reliable clean tidy and pleasant to my customers. Finding help and information is the hardest part.
As AJS intimated, we can't charge someone £500 for an try-out at the job. This is real life and people's hard earnings, we have to respect that.
I don't really care how someone learnt the trade, as long as they did it well, are responsible and honest; that's one reason I spend a lot of time researching jobs here and I thank people like AJS who are willing to share some of their knowledge.
As in any walk of life 90% of people you meet are good people, 10% are ars###les; it's the 10% wwe need to worry about.
T.

[Rupster]

Originally Posted by spacethegas

i think you will find spelling is hardly a prerequisite.

Just the result of a decent education and a bit of common sense.

Originally Posted by assured

I may not be able to spell but i can do plumbing ,gas ,central heating , bathrooms,boiler repairs ,run my own business and make shed loads of money !!! What can you do??

Already made a lot of money,not that that matters too much, and about to embark on my third business.

[Rupster]

Originally Posted by assured

Oh good glad to hear you are on you're third business hope you get it right this time ! we need people like you in our business , real jack of all trades masters of none

Errr...sold the first two!! I won't be in 'your' business...Jack!! Heaven forbid

[spacethegas]

rupster oh dear.