DIY Gas Fitting

[puddle]

What a very cynical post
Few points, the good tradesmen far out number the bad, to say, you would do a better job ,doing something for the first time, than an experienced tradesman is very naïve and be it gas, electrics ect , how would your friend or you know a good job was done, as you would not know the regulations involved in the work being done or correct materials to use. Suggest the only reason your friend moved his own meter was cost related not tradesmen
And a lot of the stuff you are going around correcting is indeed done by customers themselves, although they my say different when they have to get a tradesman in to sort the mess out
Some people set themselves up for a fall,your friend was one,do'nt follow in hus foot steps

[ian4147]

i am neither naive or cynical i am talking from experience after living in council property half my life and workin in and around peoples propertys i have seen first hand many times crap.this is not a reflection on all workers from this sector but i would like to see how many other people have lived in these propertys and had to cope with inferior works done by people who come round and couldnt give a toss and i know for a fact some not all of these jobs i could do with a damn site more care and much better results.p.s my friend was an engineer officer in merchant navy for ten years then an electrician before re training to become eventually a training captain for a major commercial airlane company he is also not naive and is a very clever person who if doing a job reads up on everthing and gets advice before he finds the best route regardless of cost,the cost has never really been the issue.why pay for something you feel you are competant to cope with.some people are very good with there hands,what are your views on people who build there own home with no experince etc then live in them the rest of there lifes are they also cynical or naive?

p.s i am not saying i would do this myself it was just a point of view.and also pointing out that after training i will be giving out a service of the highest quality not doing shoddy work and not attempting anything i think is out of my league.i just pulled out some old pipes stuffed behind my boiler from when it was replaced!!!.
my friend had a kitchen replaced and they stuck all her white goods and kitchen contents in the garden for a few weeks while they decided when would be best to come back and stick it all back in!!! she didnt even need a kitchen she was after a bathroom,see what i mean

[Renewable M]

Interesting thread here.

The 'remove head from back side' bit seems to be, people who 'CONSIDER THEMSELVES COMPETENT'

Er.... based on what? reading a few books, buying a spanner????? Or going through the training, assesment, apprenticeship etc etc etc that the many splendid gas installers have to.

I was on the tools for many years doing oil heating, before moving into training, and at home I'm on mains gas. I DO NOT CONSIDER MYSELF COMPETENT TO DEAL WITH GAS, because its the bits you dont know that'll get you. I'd never raise a tool to it.

What are they thinking!

It looks easy to fly a plane, I suppose they'd give that a try also.

phew!

[dublin plumber]

corgi would want to wake up fast, its 15000 euro fine in Ireland if your not registered and working on gas , including diy people

[david williams]

gas safe not corgi.anyone can buy parts,competant very hard to prove,ask how many unregisterd gas fitters prosecuted against registerd fitters prosecuted.its not about safety its about jobs for the boys and getting money off of you,

[thomas.l]

would'nt be a good idea, you have to get 100% in the gas exam to become a competent installer so you can imagine how dangerous it can be if you go wrong, your better of getting a fully qualified, gas safe installer

[migoplumber]

most of the acs courses are a 100% pass rate, they want your money too!!

[adrianfs1]

hi sorry to butt in guys, but how are you supposed to learn how to work with gas if you are not allowed to work with gas, all these gorgi guys are going to retire eventually, who will do the work then...????????????

[puddle]

Originally Posted by adrianfs1

hi sorry to butt in guys, but how are you supposed to learn how to work with gas if you are not allowed to work with gas, all these gorgi guys are going to retire eventually, who will do the work then...????????????

Good point Adrian,thats why most think the gas suppliers should put more into training via the governing bodies
I would say there should be sponsered centers were trainee gas fitters could go and carry out their portfollio projects
Or I, as a trained self employed fitter should be able to ring up a center and offer one or two days or a weeks site experiance when I have a certain types of work on
I have said before ,it is hard for a self employed person to commit to a full time training scheme,maybe there could be one trainee and he could move between five or six tradesmen
Like a agency,I could ring up and offer to take a tranee as and when I know I have gas work or doing gas safety inspections for the day ect
The above could work for all trades and provide better training,trainees may be with a tradesman less than now but would learn alot more

[aaronra100]

thanx for the informations friends..