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sign of the times
¡ƃuıɥʇou ʍouʞ ı˙˙˙ɹǝqɯǝɯǝɹ puɐ
˙ʎlddɐ ʇou pǝǝu sǝoɹǝɥ oƃ ɐ ǝʌɐɥ puɐ ǝldoǝd qoɾ ppo `sɹǝ,ʎıp ˙slıɐʇǝp ɹnoʎ ɹoɟ ʞsɐ ǝʍ uǝɥʍ pǝpuǝɟɟo ǝq ʇ,uop ǝsɐǝld os `ǝʇısqǝʍ ǝɟɐs sɐƃ ǝɥʇ ɐıʌ ǝuınuǝƃ ǝɹ,noʎ ʇɐɥʇ ʇno ʞɔǝɥɔ llıʍ ǝʍ ¿ǝɔıʌpɐ ɹıɐdǝɹ ɹǝlıoq ɹo ʎʇǝɟɐs sɐƃ ʇuɐʍ noʎ op
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Re: sign of the times
I note the temporary plumber is £7.94 an hour and a temporary cook with the same agency is £8.25 an hour!!
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24-06-2011 #3
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Some mug will do it.
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Re: sign of the times
Madness I was on nearly that when I was working in ashop whilst I was doing my apprenticeship.
The thing is though, somebody will take it and these things have knock on effects and eventually all wages go down. Its a joke really but what can you doIf you could read my mind I'd get punched in the face a lot
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Re: sign of the times
Tesco recently increased there minimum pay... its now above the £7.00 mark!!! Surely that job wont get filled!!!?
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Re: sign of the times
Must be even more depressing if you apply for the job and get turned down!!Maybe they have missed a 1off the frontImho
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24-06-2011 #7gaspastemaniaGuest
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I know of plumbers in southwest working for £9 an hour and get flogged to work hard for that. Problem being employers market down this way .
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Re: sign of the times
cry mate if it lasts
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25-06-2011 #10
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Employers' market everywhere at the mo. I can't get my head round the stats that the plumbing industry is 50,000 short of the mark when it comes to plumbers. I don't have any links to back it up, but I have seen some reports to that effect. And this was regarding London and the Home Counties. Doesn't seem that way to me. Every advertising block is full.
That vacancy is someone trying it on. But in the near future you'd think the water suppliers will make it mandatory to have a competency cert to touch their supplies. Something drastic maybe needs to happen like it did within the electrical installation industry like the M.P's daughter dying from electricution, unfortunately.
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Re: sign of the times
No decent employer would even in these times, consider offering that rate. If it is genuine they deserve the
they get because as already said, someone will do it.
What a shame our trade is being destroyed.
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25-06-2011 #12
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I believe it's not all doom and gloom. I think there'll be measures in place to guard against rogueys. The less plumbers get paid, the more chance there will be people don't bother to get their certificate's in order and work off of other people's certs. Insurances won't be updated. Industry will lose money on expensive tools cz they won't be being purchased. So all in all there's a great chance less money will be spent by the actual plumbers and this won't do for the associated industries that rely on us.
But, and this is probably the main reason above all else, the industry will realise that if the HSE and council bodies, water undertakers et al start enforcing procedures like having work signed off if the mains is touched and that reports about compliance to WRAS 1999 regs in peoples' homes and businesses etc and non-compliance will result in fines and non certificated workers will get fined. Then they will make huge revenue from that. And that I believe is the next incentive for them which in causality will be beneficial for plumbers. If they can set up and enforce parking restrictions outside your house imagine how much they can make with the construction industry where the safety and peoples' lives and health are at risk.
It has to happen. Too many people live together now, and it's not sustainable to have century old designs and practices still in force. Like non backflow protection, wastage etc, and authorised personnel to identify. They may even send in the droids like the electicity Co's do who make sure meters haven't been tampered with to check compliance on water supply fittings. I hope.
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i liked the one for bathroom fitters in london on £130 per day!
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Or someone who wants experience. People are willing to work for free. £7 is a godsend.
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