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Default Whats happening to 6129 level 3

Hey everyone, I have read on the forum t6hat they are doing away with the 6129 course . I am currently on my first year of 6129 level 2. If they stop it whats happening to level 3
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Hey everyone, I have read on the forum t6hat they are doing away with the 6129 course . I am currently on my first year of 6129 level 2. If they stop it whats happening to level 3
When they replace the current qualification which wont be for a while yet, they will bring out a new framework which will replace the 6129 L3. This will probably have similar elements and some new curriculum but there will still always be an advanced course available.

Kind of like when before the 6129 was available, the craft and advanced craft certs were delivered and are still recognised.

The evidence you are gathering for your 6129 L2 will be used by whatever replaces the NVQ2 so no need to worry.
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A lot of the training companies I'm talking to at the moment aren't bothering with the 6129 and instead saying "it's available but there's add-ons to the 6128, and it's a cheaper route". Don't tell me that there's going to be certification for everything like with electricians?
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A lot of the training companies I'm talking to at the moment aren't bothering with the 6129 and instead saying "it's available but there's add-ons to the 6128, and it's a cheaper route". Don't tell me that there's going to be certification for everything like with electricians?
You need to delve a bit deeper than that. Either 6129 or 6128 both have progression career paths. Both lead on to gas training as well as others.

A common misconception is the differences between the 2. The reason why the 6128 is cheaper when done privately is because the curriculum has less practical training.

In my knowledge the 6128 is heating and ventilation which is more commercial and industrial plumbing with a small domestic element. The 6129 is a general plumber and gives full domestic training including hot and cold water plumbing.
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Please be carefull as this technically isnt a PLUMBING Qual it is a Heating and Ventilation Qual which are seen very differently in the industry.

Although they are linked, if you go for a 6128 you would be classed as an industrial fitter who specialises in Heating and ventilation and not domestic plumbing.

When they bring out the new qual, from what i have heard it will not be to different than now. But it will be a QCF diploma and not an NVQ as we kow it. It will be structured differently but the end result will be the same.

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Please be carefull as this technically isnt a PLUMBING Qual it is a Heating and Ventilation Qual which are seen very differently in the industry.

Although they are linked, if you go for a 6128 you would be classed as an industrial fitter who specialises in Heating and ventilation and not domestic plumbing.

When they bring out the new qual, from what i have heard it will not be to different than now. But it will be a QCF diploma and not an NVQ as we kow it. It will be structured differently but the end result will be the same.

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not seen very different in industry - the heat and vent course is domestic as well as commercial, you have diff summit skills book to determine what you cover, im doing a heat and vent nvq 6088 which incorporates all the bathrooms outside drainage etc etc only thing it doesnt cover is lead work - how many plumbers do lead now ? it spends the time from the missing lead work on more detailled heating and ventillation. this is domestic or commercial depending on which one you cover in your job. currently theres 2 people doing commercial in my class, 5 people mainly doing domestic bathrooms not even heating and 10 of us who are domestic and employed with a gas safe registered company. the 5 lads with the bathroom installing companys have been told they have to move once on level 3 to a gas safe company working on heating projects.

we do a lot more on fault finding on boilers and a lot more on the heating side - i think its a better qualification to go for. especially with the uprise of people jumping into the trade doing the wet jobs and not having a clue on the heating side
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The evidence you are gathering for your 6129 L2 will be used by whatever replaces the NVQ2 so no need to worry.
Cheers Shano, good to know.
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there will be some rules of combination for people with a 6129, probably need a bridging module before you can do the new NVQ or diploma before progressing to L3
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