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    lol, loks like another who has given up and wrote off their 7/8k

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    for most of the ones i know this is how they end up within a few year

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    They don't look like they've seen much action!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartdude View Post
    They don't look like they've seen much action!
    Few decent items in that lot to
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    ive been saying it for ages on here. i am worried they will ruin the plumbing industry with their lies and then leave. leaving us to pick up the pieces
    bye the things i hear on here I think this has already happened down south I bet its actually homeowners who are doing these courses as they are terrified that they are going to get another cowboy dong work in there homes lol.

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    What bothers me, is that they sell finance to these people, telling them they'll be earning so much, that they'll probably pay it off early.

    I met a bloke who was about 40 years old, and had borrowed nearly 13K (yes 13,000) to go from nothing to Gas Safe Registered.

    He fell at the first hurdle when he didn't read the small print, and realised it was down to him to find someone to sign of his portfolios, his NVQ 2, his NVQ 3 and his gas portfolio.

    He was in the merchants begging people to let him tag along for free. He bent my ear for half hour and I realised nice as he was, he'd slow me down too much, and when he finally did have the experience, he'd leave and pitch up as my competitor. So I along with everyone else I saw declined.

    What's he up to now I wonder? My guess is he went back to his old job, and licked his wounds. Must still be making his payments.

    The funny thing to me is, we're just plumbers, not premier league footballers. There's no glamour in our work. The money can be ok, but its not epic by any means.

    People believe everything they read in the papers. So frankly if they're foolish enough to listen to the speil, and not see through it, then they have themselves to blame, at least partly.
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    lol 13 grand to go to college then? no apprenticeship nothing at all except a seat in a classroom come on guys surely there isnt people crazy enough to do this.
    plumbing is no gold mine if you want this become a banker,, some plumbers earn good money but these are the ones that are very good and this you wont be bye doing one of these courses.
    I think it is actually a con why is the government or trading standards not investigating these colleges who do this to people ?

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    met someone the other day who had spent 10k and had his 6129 level 2 and 3. he was doing the same, desperate for a placement to get his nvq;s. How do these people continue to fall for the rubbish they are told? they fall for the promise of money, heres to another one dropping out with 10k less than he started with

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dannypipe View Post
    The funny thing to me is, we're just plumbers, not premier league footballers. There's no glamour in our work. The money can be ok, but its not epic by any means.
    Exactly.It can be a good living,but we all know how hard you have to work for it.

    My brother-in-law runs a computer games company,and he's the one earning top money,not me!

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    When I went to college to complete my 6129 I knew I had to complete my portfolio to get my NVQ as I'd researched it. However the college didn't mention it and no one else on the course realised until I said. They all thought that the course they were on would leave them qualified.
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    i remeber one lad coming talking to me who had been to college and was going mad that he was on a 6129 and he had been promised the nvq. when he showed me the induction material it clearly stated 6129 only, nothing was mentioned about the nvq

    people see and hear what they want to see and hear

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuzzy View Post
    people see and hear what they want to see and hear
    Too true!
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    why are there so many negative comments?
    Does learning this from a young age at college or Uni etc mean its better than distance learning?

    I'm a Project Manager and was laid off last year when BSF was axed. Next to nothing since. No money equals no projects equals no jobs.
    Back in the good days the money was great but with up to 6hrs travelling per day it takes its toll.
    Now i'm not saying its rosey here or there but if a late 30's guy like me wants to retrain whilst trying to pay bills, what other choices do we have?
    Too old for college, too old for apprenticeships (if there are any of these left).
    So the only avenue is something like this.
    For me it's about quality of life, less of a commute and frankly i've had enough of projects inefficiencies, wasting money, failed deliveries, changing politics etc that cause so much aggro each day.
    I suspect plumbing also has its down sides but id like to be the one to find out.
    I'd like to work for someone. I've been self employed for years and it has good and bad points.

    I'm only part of my way through one of these courses and i'm finding it flexible to allow me to try to find soem work to pay the bills whilst i learn.
    I've been very fortunate that a plumber allowed me to help him with a load of new pipe work installation.
    He showed me the very basics and allowed me to solder, bend, install radiators, help drain the system and also threw some questions at me on some topics.

    So come on folk, its not our fault we chose this path, maybe we think the grass is greener but let us try to find out.
    For one i'd be losing masses financially but then its not as important for me now as my priorities have changed.

    no offence to anyone, just my thoughts at this early stage.
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