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    I was thinking of becoming a brain surgeon. No qualifications. But all ok. because if it goes wrong, the patient will know different. So why is it in the gas industry, that people think they can do work with out the qualifications and registration?

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    Cos to work on a boiler you need some basic tools & its your boiler.

    Would anyone work on their own brain with some screwdrivers out of a Christmas cracker and a hammer from the shed?
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    Your own Boiler? Tell that to Stacey Rodgers, who's son. Domonic was killed by CO from the neighbours faulty boiler.

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    And they were told by the bloke with the oil boiler that all boilers are fine to work on!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reg Man View Post
    So why is it in the gas industry, that people think they can do work with out the qualifications and registration?
    Because they are not in the gas industry, but more to the point some people are still prepared to let them work in their homes without checking to see if they are, this despite numerous cases like that of Stacey Rodgers son.
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    Always makes me laugh that they have a gas safety week it shouldn't just be pushed for a week which is where Gas Safe fails they are a moneymaking organisation and do not invest heavily enough in preventative measures or education. They penalise those that are qualified or supposedly qualified yet to us it's seems like nothing is done to prevent the DIYer or illegals
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    Is it not the job of the judiciary, prompted by government (us), to make the penalties such that it makes all those concerned think twice.

    As far as can see there is no effective deterrent to stop all those involved and that includes those working illegally as well as those who keep them operating by employing them.!!

    Blaming Gas Safe is a bit unfair when as we all know cases are put forward to HSE and the like and are simple not pursued, least not until someone is killed.

    Just like the rest of the regulations around this industry if they are not enforced then people simple ignore them which is why we are where we are with any Tom, Dick or Harry doing it with impunity.
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    Penalties for homeowners who ignore or fail to check gas safe registration is the way to prevent unregistered work. Legally the framework is in place. Employers responsible for acts of employees. Fixed penalty, like use of mobile phone in car, for failure to record details.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris watkins View Post
    Is it not the job of the judiciary, prompted by government (us), to make the penalties such that it makes all those concerned think twice.

    As far as can see there is no effective deterrent to stop all those involved and that includes those working illegally as well as those who keep them operating by employing them.!!

    Blaming Gas Safe is a bit unfair when as we all know cases are put forward to HSE and the like and are simple not pursued, least not until someone is killed.

    Just like the rest of the regulations around this industry if they are not enforced then people simple ignore them which is why we are where we are with any Tom, Dick or Harry doing it with impunity.
    I totally agree with you Chris, my point with Blame sitting with Gas Safe is that they are the Visual body. I just don't think they invest enougj time effort and money into promoting safe gas work. Where peoples lives are at stake I don't think you can cut corners. Gas Safe should be working with all the big suppliers and all the big merchant so every time you walk into a plumbers merchant or a Screwfix or B&Q it should be Gas Safe literature here there and everywhere and posters stating the penalty if you get caught doing illegal work. I think the fact that I get asked if I am corgi registered about 10 times a week say that Gas Safe is not doing a good enough job promoting gas safety
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    A good start as previously mentioned, would be to stop the sale of gas related parts and equipment to anyone who is not qualified and competent.

    The trouble is, that would also stop the money spinning.

    The competency tests and exams need toughening up too imo. There are way to many people pass with flying colours when they really are NOT competent at all.

    Again, money rules.

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    That is exactly the point though isn't it if they really wanted to sort it out they could with a few easy measures but that won't because of the money involved
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    Exactamundo !!!
    All about cash !!

    Always is.

    The love of money is the route of all evil !

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