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    Hi there. I think as a registered gas safe it would be our responsibility to inspect the installation and make safe before signing off someone's job and more of an advantage to know the initial installer incase of a problem but if the installation isn't up to standard after inspection there is no need to sign off. That's why we do has safety inspections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chilo View Post
    Hi there. I think as a registered gas safe it would be our responsibility to inspect the installation and make safe before signing off someone's job and more of an advantage to know the initial installer incase of a problem but if the installation isn't up to standard after inspection there is no need to sign off. That's why we do has safety inspections.
    or report them as they shouldn't be doing it in the first place
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    If you walk onto a job and sign it off as your own work, without taking it apart and rebuilding the installation your committing an offence.

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    I don't know why people keep trying to justify it it should be stamped out not promoted as a way to dodge the rules
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    Rules should be firmed up for all concerned. If apprentices or others are carrying out part of the work it should be under the direct supervision of GS engineer, present on site at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joni os View Post
    Rules should be firmed up for all concerned. If apprentices or others are carrying out part of the work it should be under the direct supervision of GS engineer, present on site at the time.
    Agreed mate but that's a bit different to Joe Public fitting it himself to save money then trying to get an engineer to sign off. Both need stronger penalties in my eyes
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    Just don't get involved if you value your Gas Safe Registration. This is just encouraging the illegals to prosper. Let them have the aggro with the customer and Gas Safe when the customer dosent receive a correctly completed Benchmark doc (with FGA printout attached) AND a proper Building Regs Notification. Look at what we spend each year on registrations, ACS every five years, all test equipment, calibration fees etc etc etc - the list goes on.
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    The only way to increase safety and prevent Cowboys from working on jobs is the manufactures of gas appliance, and merchants tighten up. If each gas appliance sold had to be registered to a gas safe number and signed by the engineer before it was sold, it would reduce the rogue fitters.
    All boilers have to be registered and serviced annually for manufactures to validate the warranty.

    We all know this will never happen as all manufactures have to hit targets. If 1 manufacture does it they lose customers as the cheap landlord will just choose another manufacture that gives less aggro.

    I'm a service agent for a boiler manufacture. The 1st thing I check for in warrenty calls is the gas safe installations cert, then the benchmark commissioning list. If it's been 12 months from install date then a proof of service. If these are not there, I have to say good bye and walk out.

    At the same time it's about educating the public/customer.
    The amount of time I've said to customers that they should be looking at the gas safe ID I have around my neck. For all they know it may have expired or I may not be competent to work on anything apart from pipe work.
    What still shocks me is some people still thinks it's Corgi
    Gas safe need to do more to make people aware, and we as Gas Safe engineers can do more to help.
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    Am I being thick here? The issue is that the guy signed off unsafe work. Not that he signed off an installation. Had it been properly checked and was all safe, then would there still have been an issue?

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    Yes because install should be by a suitably qualified pwrson
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    as far as im aware, anyone can run the pipes and hang the boiler etc. obviously, whoever signs it off is putting their registration on the line but that`s their call. its up to them to determine whether it is safe or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveWannadoGas View Post
    as far as im aware, anyone can run the pipes and hang the boiler etc. obviously, whoever signs it off is putting their registration on the line but that`s their call. its up to them to determine whether it is safe or not.
    Ugh,

    And it's that attitude which ensures it's not being done properly
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