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Discuss Can you sign off an installation done by a non-GSR plumber? at UK Plumbers Forums; Ive read the thread and still no clearer, I have never done it, but if I were to sign off an unregistered engineers work this would have to be against ...
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    Ive read the thread and still no clearer, I have never done it, but if I were to sign off an unregistered engineers work this would have to be against the regs. They have still worked on a gas appliance illegally and I would be covering condoning this and undermining my own registration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary80gas View Post
    Ive read the thread and still no clearer, I have never done it, but if I were to sign off an unregistered engineers work this would have to be against the regs. They have still worked on a gas appliance illegally and I would be covering condoning this and undermining my own registration.
    if you carry out all the works required in the tb laying down the actions required, you wouldnt be seen to be condoning an illegal install, as you would have completely inspected all the gas lines replacing any you are unhappy with, and ensured that all the system meets the regs. To do this takes time and money, so you may well be having to charge the customer a fair amount of money to achieve a safe and functioning system. You will also have to ensure the plumbing is also correct and upto building regs standards as your going to be the one responsible for it in future, ie a year as you are undertaking to warranty this system now. So if you are doing all this and taking on the responsibility, you may well be looking at charging anywhere from £600 to over £1000 for your labour and any parts required. If you have done all of this and been paid the sums mentioned, you are hardly condoning illegal workers, its only if you go and sign off the paperwork for £50 you are leaving yourself open to gas safe chasing your tail down the line
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    Id want to take it off the wall and start from scratch and that would cost more then £50. [I]Ive been approached with customers saying our plumbers gone sick will you come and finish it, im too busy to get involved with a mess.

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    I've had one last week, the guy can't get hold of the installer, after an combi-combi relacement - (to be fair he said he did check him out- has a wedsite and that,) but hasn't answered his phone for weeks. Actually cust was ringing cuz boiler pressure kept goin up- so i went and had a look.. behold the old filling loop behind the cupboard was letting-by, so poor guy was bleeding his rads every day about a litre!!

    Boiler is not registered- I checked for him... NOW WHAT?

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    Advise customer and dont concern yourself.
    Its not your problem to resolve imho
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    I thought that the homeowner can pay the council b regs dept to sign it off, so I would imagine that they will just commission a gs engineer to do it. I wonder if anyone on here has been asked by the council to do one and if so what they did.

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    Building control (if asked) would just send one of their guys round to have a look and about all they would check is flue positions and the boiler wasn't falling off the wall. They are not qualified to do anything else.
    They don't pass work on but would i imagine, advise the homeowner to get it checked.
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    Looking for a gas safe engineer to sign work off and help with my portfolio I will supply work as and when I can as have been messed around so many times I need a reliable worker in Portsmouth area. Good paid jobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drm View Post
    Looking for a gas safe engineer to sign work off and help with my portfolio I will supply work as and when I can as have been messed around so many times I need a reliable worker in Portsmouth area. Good paid jobs.
    You'd probably be better off starting your own thread mate. Introduce yourself, tell us about your experience etc. We have quite a few guys in your area try and sell yourself to them
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    Good shout. Thanks

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    I commissioned a boiler fitted by someone recently, there was no registration but after a conflab with GS and the manufacturer and some minor remedial work it is now registered and under warranty, it can be done but there are hoops from every man and his dog, luckily I had access to absolutely every mm of the system.
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    Default Re: Can you sign off an installation done by a non-GSR plumber?

    And there is the million dollar question, Do I/Don,t I ??? You were lucky in the respect that you had access to the whole installation, more often than not the customer is not going to let you start removing furniture, lift carpets & floorboards (or even worse chipboard flooring) , remove the pipe boxing fronts ruining their decoration and start taking out kitchen cupboards so that you can inspect every inch of the installation and unless you can do this, I would never put my name to it. And even then I would be reporting it to GSR before I touched it.
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