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Discuss Can you sign off an installation done by a non-GSR plumber? at UK Plumbers Forums; Originally Posted by newcastle phill This was in last months gas rag. Gas lad got hammered big time Both of them did....
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    Default Re: Can you sign off an installation done by a non-GSR plumber?

    Quote Originally Posted by newcastle phill View Post
    This was in last months gas rag. Gas lad got hammered big time
    Both of them did.
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    I d be happy to sign off work that has been done by someone else as long as I could see the whole installation and it passed all the tests in the mf instruction.A lot of people on here will have apprentice s that will run gas pipe work hang boilers for them pipe them ect there not gas safe registered its no different you trust them to do*it.if*I trust the person fitting it than I have no problem signing itoff.each*to there*own.RPM*I don t have to show my gsr badge to have an opinion on gas or deemed competent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mooey View Post
    I d be happy to sign off work that has been done by someone else as long as I could see the whole installation and it passed all the tests in the mf instruction.A lot of people on here will have apprentice s that will run gas pipe work hang boilers for them pipe them ect there not gas safe registered its no different you trust them to do*it.if*I trust the person fitting it than I have no problem signing itoff.each*to there*own.RPM*I don t have to show my gsr badge to have an opinion on gas or deemed competent.
    Then you are a fool.

    And yes you do to be deemed competent on this forum.

    I cannot begin to believe that you are happy to spend thousands on training and registration to cover the backside of an illegal installer who cannot be bothered.

    I hope you get caught.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mooey View Post
    I d be happy to sign off work that has been done by someone else as long as I could see the whole installation and it passed all the tests in the mf instruction.A lot of people on here will have apprentice s that will run gas pipe work hang boilers for them pipe them ect there not gas safe registered its no different you trust them to do*it.if*I trust the person fitting it than I have no problem signing itoff.each*to there*own.RPM*I don t have to show my gsr badge to have an opinion on gas or deemed competent.
    Did you see this.

    Not worth doing.!
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    It is clearly wrong to sign off someone else's installation, but less clear what comprises an installation. Where a gas fitter is GSR but not G3, and plumber is G3 but not GSR a system with gas boiler and unvented cylinder has all the potential for a demarcation dispute not seen since the heydays of Cammell Laird.

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    Default Re: Can you sign off an installation done by a non-GSR plumber?

    Quote Originally Posted by mooey View Post
    I d be happy to sign off work that has been done by someone else as long as I could see the whole installation and it passed all the tests in the mf instruction.A lot of people on here will have apprentice s that will run gas pipe work hang boilers for them pipe them ect there not gas safe registered its no different you trust them to do*it.if*I trust the person fitting it than I have no problem signing itoff.each*to there*own.RPM*I don t have to show my gsr badge to have an opinion on gas or deemed competent.
    i'm not really having a go but I think that's a very ignorant opinion. And just promotes DIY gaswork Which is something as engineers we should be doing our upmost to stamp out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riley View Post
    i'm not really having a go but I think that's a very ignorant opinion. And just promotes DIY gaswork Which is something as engineers we should be doing our upmost to stamp out.
    I was definitely having a go! Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by croppie View Post
    Then you are a fool.

    And yes you do to be deemed competent on this forum.

    I cannot begin to believe that you are happy to spend thousands on training and registration to cover the backside of an illegal installer who cannot be bothered.

    I hope you get caught.
    Couldn't agree more and also why let someone get paid for work that should be completed by trained, registered individuals!

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    as the name implies gas safe's main aim is safety and by effectivly banning inspections of unregistered installs i feel they are not
    scenario 1 lanlord has boiler fitted by joe blogs then moves in a family they ask for gas cert and landlord keeps putting them of but he is tryoing to get it done as he now realises his mistake before he can get it sorted both children in the family die of co poisoning net reusult two dead children landlord in a world of troubles and no one has earnt any money
    scenario 2 same as above but some one qualified has checked the boiler thoroughly found fault issued a riddor net result two children alive gas engineer has had a pay day and landlord still in a world of trouble because gas safe/hse are investigating him and hopefully the original fitter
    im much happier with the outcome of scenario 2 but it wont happen as gas safe dont follow up unless its handed to them on a plate or some one has died
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    Surely the best thing to do would be to make it illegal to service/comission unregistered work and then make it impossible for unregistered folk to get their hands on any gas parts without a GSR card?
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrygashull View Post
    Surely the best thing to do would be to make it illegal to service/comission unregistered work and then make it impossible for unregistered folk to get their hands on any gas parts without a GSR card?
    weve had this argument before and as ray points out a big part of the heating market is housing associations and other companies that dont need registration as they dont fit the items
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