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    I'm not against education Phil, my point is that the system is being exploited for profit.

    Nor am I against gas regulations. What I was trying to explain is why, in my opinion, Gas Safe registration is not as respected is it should be.

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    All systems are exploited for profit.
    Always have always will.
    No profit - no point
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    Father i have a confession>

    Last week i signed a boiler off that wee Drew did without me even looking at it. He brought the boiler book up to my house and i filled it in with all the right numbers and signed it at the bottom with my number on it.
    Am i worried............no because Drew was the best apprentice i ever had and i know how he works. He may be selling caravans for a living these days and the last time he had a gas ticket was around 2000 but he knows more than half the idiots in this trade these days.

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    I may or may not have heard about a gent who may or may not be registered, doing gas work, not so far from me, that "a tutor" may or may not know about, but he says that although he isn`t registered, he knows his stuff and his work is faultless. :O Wonder what happens when the appliance guarantee is called on? Having seen a couple of installations done for me, Im not sure standards are what they could or should be. But we all know that.

    For example I had a boiler like for like combi, put in by a couple of lads, didnt even fill around the hole where the flue goes through the wall, never mind putting the rubber seal around it. I think once I paid them, they packed their tools and cleared off. Less than impressive. They also ran the condense pipe down the side of the house, terminating at the bottom of the wall. It was suggested to me that in time, this could affect the foundations.

    I asked a tutor about this and he said it was bad. I had to re-route it myself, into the guttering.

    PS yes its costing a fortune to get trained (and hopefully registered) but that doesn`t make me competent. It does however mean I have a lot to lose if I screw up.

    I was surprised to see (sitting his written exams) at the training centre, an ex classmate. How he got through the initial training, I don`t know. I recall on one m/c paper he got 16 out of 30 wrong. He won`t be working in my house. I have a suspicion that the practical assessor sent him home because he just wasnt ready. In my view, he was pretty clueless.
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    I give up with this thread - I'm out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ric2013 View Post

    - there had to be an element of trust that I would to continue to work exactly as instructed and shown and not, say, switch from Everflux to LaCo half way through the job. .
    How exactly would switching flux affect workmanship?
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    How exactly would switching flux affect workmanship?
    I don't know. I was just told to use the Everflux for the gas run, not Laco or Powerflow. My understanding was that the more aggressive fluxes were better avoided for gas and that Everflux is relatively mild. But then I'm not a RGI and I let him make the decision on how the jointing was to be carried out.

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    As I said earlier - if it all goes well and no one knows then hey-ho. Everyones happy and what more can be added...

    Its when the carp hits the fan.
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    It took me 4 years to get my Gas ticket, 4 years and about 10 grand. Do I stick to the rules? Yes. Why do I want to loose my livelihood and all the effort I put in to get where I'm now for 50 quid or 500 quid!? Don't think so!!!

    The answer on the initial question is YES but legally NO. One can do whatever he wants... but there's a price to pay if you get caught. It's the same as asking - can I drive at 150 miles per hour on the road. That's total disregard for others wellbeing! You might get away with it or not... there could be a free food for you on offer in prison... The choice is yours!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveWannadoGas View Post
    thats a separate issue.

    the point is, hes perfectly ok to sign off any work he wants to, but its his name on the line and if the job isnt up to scratch, then its him who will be answerable for that.
    That's not strictly true, knowingly signing off illegal work is against Gas Safe Registration, unless it's pulled a part and confirmed/fixed to make it fully compliant (eg if the customer has been hoodwinked by illegal installer) but to pop along and sign off a job once it's illegally done is a no no
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    why would you bother ?

    your shooting yourself in the foot by making things easier for someone who is essentially a cowboy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zee2 View Post
    why would you bother ?

    your shooting yourself in the foot by making things easier for someone who is essentially a cowboy.

    Would you leave your dabs and DNA at the scene of a serious crime commited by others ??

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