Welcome to UK Plumbers Forums Plumbing Forum


The UK's Biggest Plumbing Forum for DIY and Professional Plumbers; find


  •  » Plumbing Advice provided by Professional and DIY Plumbers alike
  •  » Customers can Find a Plumber, or Plumbers can Find Customers
  •  » Tips on Plumbing Tools, How-to Plumb, Plumbing Products etc
  •  » Advice and Discussion related to Tiling Courses and Plumbing Qualifications
  •  » Professional Plumbers can find Business Advice, Discounts, Trade Accounts

DIY and Professional Plumbers are Welcome, For Gas only use Gas Safe Register Plumbers


Support by Plumbers, Manufacturers, Distributors and Plumbing Parts Suppliers


REGISTER HERE FOR FREE


p.s.: Registered members will not see this ad

Results 1 to 12 of 12
Plumbing & Plumbers Forum - what could the symptoms be for a high Co/Co2 ratio?

what could the symptoms be for a high Co/Co2 ratio?

Discuss what could the symptoms be for a high Co/Co2 ratio? in the Gas Safe Register Forum - Public Forum at Plumbers Forums; Hi everyone, I'd like to know what the common problems/symptoms could be for a higher than normal CO/Co2 ratio when using a Flue Gas Analyser. What should I be looking ...
  1. #1
    Plumbing Forum Contributor
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Posts
    36
    Thanks
    14
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default what could the symptoms be for a high Co/Co2 ratio?

    Hi everyone,

    I'd like to know what the common problems/symptoms could be for a higher than normal CO/Co2 ratio when using a Flue Gas Analyser. What should I be looking for i.e correct incoming gas pressure from the meter etc. Are there a few problems which you would always check first and most of the time it tends to be that one thing, or could it be many different reasons on any given job?

    All your helpful answers would be much appreciated..... thanks in advance :-)


  2. #2
    uɐɯ sɐƃ moderator


    gas man's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    maesteg,south wales
    Posts
    13,319
    Thanks
    827
    Thanked 1,264 Times in 1,207 Posts

    Default Re: what could the symptoms be for a high Co/Co2 ratio?

    what boiler? on most SE appliances gas pressures being over set would be my first check


  3. GASMAN
    fear keeps you alive
    fearless gets you killed

    IMPOR
    TANT: Carbon Monoxide can be produced when ANY fuel is burnt, including oil, gas, wood and coal.
    GSR?want gas safety or boiler repair advice?we will check out that your genuine via the gas safe website,so please dont be offended when we ask for your details
    diyers,potchers,odd job people and have a go heroes need not apply
    ​BAXI/POTTERTON INSTALLER/SERVICE ENGINEER
    ​ land rover equipped,you can go faster,i can go anywhere


  4. #3
    Plumbing Forum Contributor
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Posts
    36
    Thanks
    14
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default Re: what could the symptoms be for a high Co/Co2 ratio?

    I tend to find Worcesters and Vaillants have higher ratios, whereas MAIN's and Ideal are quiet low, often 0.0001.

  5. #4
    Plumbers Arms member

    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    1,874
    Thanks
    90
    Thanked 71 Times in 70 Posts

    Default Re: what could the symptoms be for a high Co/Co2 ratio?

    i think alot of MI's state if you get a high reading they recommend a strip and clean then re check , could be wrong tho

  6. #5
    Plumbing Forum Contributor
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Posts
    36
    Thanks
    14
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default Re: what could the symptoms be for a high Co/Co2 ratio?

    Im sure they do........ but strip and clean what exactly??

    Also Gas Man, what are SE appliances??

  7. #6
    uɐɯ sɐƃ moderator


    gas man's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    maesteg,south wales
    Posts
    13,319
    Thanks
    827
    Thanked 1,264 Times in 1,207 Posts

    Default Re: what could the symptoms be for a high Co/Co2 ratio?

    Quote Originally Posted by neddy1984 View Post
    im sure they do........ But strip and clean what exactly??

    Also gas man, what are se appliances??
    standard efficiency

    GASMAN
    fear keeps you alive
    fearless gets you killed

    IMPOR
    TANT: Carbon Monoxide can be produced when ANY fuel is burnt, including oil, gas, wood and coal.
    GSR?want gas safety or boiler repair advice?we will check out that your genuine via the gas safe website,so please dont be offended when we ask for your details
    diyers,potchers,odd job people and have a go heroes need not apply
    ​BAXI/POTTERTON INSTALLER/SERVICE ENGINEER
    ​ land rover equipped,you can go faster,i can go anywhere


  8. #7
    UK Plumbersforums Trusted Advisor.

    villa_tom's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    The Midlands
    Posts
    3,427
    Thanks
    225
    Thanked 260 Times in 240 Posts

    Default Re: what could the symptoms be for a high Co/Co2 ratio?

    Any set of manufacturers instructions will tell you what ratio you need to achieve and what to do if it's out. If you adjust the ratio at the gas valve etc and yo still can't obtain a good reading then yo have to check reasons why, ie gas pressure, flue integrity etc. if these are ok then a full strip and clean will be need, which you can find in the MI's.
    If you could read my mind I'd get punched in the face a lot

  9. #8
    Moderator


    croppie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Portadown, United Kingdom
    Posts
    7,586
    Thanks
    445
    Thanked 528 Times in 489 Posts

    Default Re: what could the symptoms be for a high Co/Co2 ratio?

    There's a range of boilers I look after on the commercial side, Potterton condensing Derwent, which are thankfully obsolete now, I get issues with them with the fan assembly. Burner pressure on the nose, boiler sparkling inside (and out!) but dreadful fga readings, the fan loses 10-20% of speed through wear and tear. Generates enough air to activate the aps but doesn't pull the flue gases through fast enough.


    Horrible boilers. A new fan is the best part of a monkey and becoming increasingly more difficult to get hold of. Every one I go to I report the thing as life expired...... Sometimes I love government work!
    Propino Tibi Salutem! Usque ad Mortem Bibendum!

    Croppie
    (By the way, I'm commercial!)

    IMPORTANT: Carbon Monoxide can be produced when ANY fuel is burnt, including oil, gas, wood and coal.

    GSR? Want gas safety or boiler repair advice? We will check out that you're genuine via the gas safe website, so please don't be offended when we ask for your details. DIYers, odd job people and have a go heroes need not apply.

  10. #9
    Plumbers Arms member
    Blake's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Nottingham
    Posts
    1,064
    Thanks
    20
    Thanked 107 Times in 98 Posts

    Default Re: what could the symptoms be for a high Co/Co2 ratio?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neddy1984 View Post
    Im sure they do........ but strip and clean what exactly??
    Have you done your CPA1? I only ask as this should have been explained during your training and if you are not sure what you should be cleaning in order to try and achieve the correct results you probably need to re-read all of your training notes. IMHO.

  11. #10
    Top Plumbing Forum Contributor
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    751
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 70 Times in 69 Posts

    Default Re: what could the symptoms be for a high Co/Co2 ratio?

    First thing to check fga working and been calibrated

  12. #11
    UK Plumbersforums Trusted Advisor.

    AWheating's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    WestMidlands
    Posts
    5,786
    Thanks
    124
    Thanked 572 Times in 546 Posts

    Default Re: what could the symptoms be for a high Co/Co2 ratio?

    basically it can be anything involved in the combustion process......from the gas main/meter to the flue terminal and the correct operation and use of your analyser.
    Ammonia is found on Pluto, Jupiter and, in small amounts, on Uranus.

    are you Gas Safe? want gas safety or boiler repair advice?we will check out that your genuine via the gas safe website,so please dont be offended when we ask for your details.Diyers,potchers,odd job people and have a go heroes need not apply!

    AW Heating and Plumbing Services. Take the Plunge!

    btw im commercial,
    NOT.


  13. #12
    Top Plumbing Forum Contributor arran197's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    Wolverhampton
    Posts
    697
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 48 Times in 46 Posts

    Default Re: what could the symptoms be for a high Co/Co2 ratio?

    Gas pressure is the easiest thing to start with, obviously BP and IWP on old boilers and just IWP on new ones. From there you need to be gas rating and checking the integrity of the flue. On some condensing boilers the gas valve is adjustable to get the perfect ration and co2 percentage. But you need to make sure you follow the right procedure for adjusting any gas valve. The amount of times I have come across Greenstars that have been incorrectly adjusted is not funny. Especially the older ones like the R series. Manufacturers are always glad to guide you through how to adjust the thing, just call them and ask. No one is going to knock you for getting extra information about an appliance.

Similar Threads

  1. Symptoms of faulty Gas meter
    By Rizme in forum Gas Safe Register Forum - Public Forum
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 15-01-2012, 11:16 PM
  2. symptoms of a faulty pressure vessel
    By Ralphmalph in forum Central Heating Forum
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 11-11-2011, 11:27 PM
  3. installed a new vokera 29he compact natural gas, the ratio is 0.0011? is the ratio ok
    By cool in forum Gas Safe Register Forum - Public Forum
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 25-06-2011, 11:16 PM
  4. Symptoms of low level gas poisionng??
    By mredd in forum Gas Safe Register Forum - Public Forum
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: 11-02-2011, 12:22 AM
  5. Withdrawal symptoms
    By Dannypipe in forum General Off-Topic Chat
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 07-09-2010, 10:25 PM

Visitors found this page by searching for:

flue gas analyser readings

coco2 ratio for natural gas

coco2 ratio

gas flue analyser readings

gas boiler coco2 ratio

my ratio reading is too high on gas analyser

co co2 readings

Tags for this Thread

Plumbers Forums is a Trading Style of Untold Developments Ltd. Search Engine Optimisation, Web Development and Online Marketing for the UK.