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Discuss Can you work on a boiler if your not Gas Safe? at UK Plumbers Forums; Originally Posted by AWheating Why any customer would after you have explained to them your not qualified let you try and fix there gas appliance is another baffling question. or ...
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    Default Re: Can you work on a boiler if your not Gas Safe?

    Quote Originally Posted by AWheating View Post

    Why any customer would after you have explained to them your not qualified let you try and fix there gas appliance is another baffling question.
    or do you not tell them you're not qualified?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dancinplumba View Post
    am a bit confused ??? someone on here said its only if you remove the combustion cover ??? tho i do agree with you adam
    You have to remove the combustion casing to access most fans or pumps on modern fan flued boilers so they are right aswell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca2009 View Post
    Hope someone can clarify this one for me.

    I want to know where I stand on fixing domestic boilers.

    I don't have domestic Gas Safe qualifications. Can I still work on boilers? in this I mean like replacing parts on them like PCB's and fans ect. I don't and never will touch anything gas, ie gas valves and pipework. Where do i stand on doing the other stuff? Am I allowed to so long as I know what I'm doing and competent?

    Is anyone else in this situation and what are the boundaries.

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    not as a busniness or for strangers. if competent you can fix your own and family and friends

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    I have been fixing boilers for years and was Corgi since its early inception, and am GSR. But, this is my last year, since work has dropped and I can no longer support the overhead for gas.

    A contributor to my decision not to re-register, is that I hardly come across a broken boiler now, where some un-registered neighbour, friend, trainee plumber or DIY guy, has not had a go first.

    Landord safety checks have dropped to £25, and boiler installations for £850 - you can keep your 'professional' gas installer con.

    With Gas Safe having 55,000 or so registered businesses, there are reported to be around 20,000 illegal installers - as the economy bites, this is only going to go one way, despite recent prosecutions for serial illegal installers.

    But the illegal tag, is one which justifies GSR existence - are we as workers so blind that we can't see we are being exploited by a worthless licence to practice system, which cannot provide evidence that it leads to better goods and services to the public.

    New installers will not pick this up, because to become an 'engineer' in weeks is a good deal, along with instant professional identity - badge of competence 'GAS SAFE ENGINEER'. But after five years, these GSR installers will find the renewal costs a little bit more difficult to bear, given they have had to compete with illegals for years, and that they have not made the kind of profits, or living they intended.

    The proverbial will hit the fan with this pretty soon, and the signs will be a reduction in registrations and a rise in the number of small businesses going bust.

    You might get a clue from this Self-employed business opportunity? No thanks | John Harris | Comment is free | The Guardian
    about the way things are going, and how small business is just a feeder for professionals like accountants, bankers and insurers to make money.

    If you are doing well from self employment, then fair play, I take my hat off to you, because your both a grafter and a thinker. But many, perhaps less skilled, less experienced are at the mercy of unbridled capitalism, and an over-supply in the great skills market - its my third recession, and I have not got the energy now to work long hours for minimum wage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca2009 View Post
    Thank you to all you people who actually gave some sensible advice. By the way I am a qualified plumbing and heating engineer and I do have commercial gas safe qualification. So for all you bigot's who moan about me like a 'have a go DIYer' knock yourself down a peg or two will you. I have currently started working for myself and wanted to know where I stood on fixing boilers and how far I can go with them. I know I can't touch gas and I don't fix anything I'm not competent with. I have actulay phoned Gas Safe and asked them and I have been told I can work on PCB's and fans, just not gas pipes and valves. I'm going to get this verified agian to make sure. But that was all I was after, and not to be moaned at by the dinosaurs on here.

    Have a nice day!!!
    How can Gas Safe advocate a non GSR person working on fans and PCB's, are PCB's and fans not all related to the combustion process with some PCB's controlling the fan and gas? Even more so on zero governed boilers.

    This is a load of male cow dung in my opinion.
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    there are two ways to go about anything, the right way and the wrong way!

    having said that i do agree that gassafe is an exploitative system, but it does gaurentee a basic level of competency.
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    I do think that commercial registered folk are placed with different standards etc but they are better placed in industry than domestic registered gs chaps if they have the work.
    if not pay your few hundred quid and step down the ladder

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    no you shoulnt be working on boilers you don't even fully understand them by the sounds of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by kay-jay View Post
    there are two ways to go about anything, the right way and the wrong way!

    having said that i do agree that gassafe is an exploitative system, but it does gaurentee a basic level of competency.
    Fair comment kay-jay, and there are few that would disagree with your statement.

    But, I hope you will share in my questioning of some of your beliefs:

    Right and wrong, pertains to moral law, and things are usually judged right or wrong by the consensus of the majority, in a democracy - so in order to judge right or wrong, we would have to be represented in some way, by those who make the decisions - who represents the gas installer? and do we trust them to make 'right' decisions on our behalf.

    For example, licence to practice brings about better workmanship - corgi annaual report 2007, documented significant numbers of NCS, AR, and some immediately dangerous installations, on work which had been notified as 'competent' through the gas work notification scheme.

    But, what about the notion of competence? can it be measured accurately using the multiple choice questions and simulated environments that are nothing like real work? Does an assessment taken in college, give an accurate measure of competence or competency in relation to the occupational role of a plumber or gas installer - would you bet your house on it?

    So how can we be assured that the system is valid, reliable and rigorous? Who can assure us?
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    Default Re: Can you work on a boiler if your not Gas Safe?

    only people that are allowed to work on boilers are gas engineers and now sparks as long as they are with a gas registered company with gas engineers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aggis View Post
    If we [GSR engineers] don't do all the safety checks on the appliance when repairing, & an incident happens afterwards we'll be taken to task !!!
    But, if you read the bulletin.......

    http://www.gassaferegister.co.uk/PDF... appliance.pdf

    Maybe when changing a pump...... we can wear our plumbers hat.

    I think not!!

    I wish Gas Safe would get these issues sorted out with the Government/Health & Safety & make it that only GSR engineers can buy gas appliances & any associated parts, & therefore be the only people to be qualified to carryout the work.

    It could be so easy, use the registration number & password when purchasing at plumbers merchants, [they all use computers] Gives traceability....

    Thanks for the link aggis, this is what I was after. Why do some people make such a deal. Thank you

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    Jesus I didn't think it would stir up such a debate. For all you lot that are just having a go at me and moaning about 'we pay our fees'. Just stop and have a think why i have asked the question in the first place. Yes I am a commercial engineer who is qualified. Yes I have now decided to try my hand at the self employed domestic market, as you will all know that the bottom is falling out of the construction side. I have asked the the question to get some advice, so I don't go breaking any laws. As the last thing I want to do is go to jail. I have spoken to Gas Safe and the bloke did say I can work on pcb's and fans for example, I am a bit skeptical about if the advice is correct. That is the whole reason I have asked this on here to make sure. I will be contacting Gas Safe again to double check. May I thank all of you who have given good advice on here, that what I needed not an ear full.
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