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    Default Re: Can you work on a boiler if your not Gas Safe?

    Thank you to all you people who actually gave some sensible advice. By the way I am a qualified plumbing and heating engineer and I do have commercial gas safe qualification. So for all you bigot's who moan about me like a 'have a go DIYer' knock yourself down a peg or two will you. I have currently started working for myself and wanted to know where I stood on fixing boilers and how far I can go with them. I know I can't touch gas and I don't fix anything I'm not competent with. I have actulay phoned Gas Safe and asked them and I have been told I can work on PCB's and fans, just not gas pipes and valves. I'm going to get this verified agian to make sure. But that was all I was after, and not to be moaned at by the dinosaurs on here.

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    It's makes me laugh that when ever someone doesn't get the answers they were expecting we're bigots and dinosaurs.
    If you're gas qualified already then get yourself registered. Everyone else has to, what makes you so special?

    As for gas safe's reply it surprises me. It's difficult enough getting them to rule on something innocuous let alone the legality of non registered gas work. In fact I reckon you're fibbing about that.
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    In technical terms to work on a fan, pump or pcb you would have to take the cover of the boiler and that is classed as being gas work. If you have commercial gas qualifications enrol at your local technical college to do the change over course from commercial COCN1 to CCN1 Domestic and the CEN1 qualification then you can register with gas safe legally, what you have to remember is that the gas industry is a legal mine field so it is better to pay a few hundered £ than risk a fine of thousands. Just my 2c.

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    think what you want 'dinosaur' make way for the new breed lol!

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    Thanks Adam84 for some decent advice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca2009 View Post
    Thank you to all you people who actually gave some sensible advice. By the way I am a qualified plumbing and heating engineer and I do have commercial gas safe qualification. So for all you bigot's who moan about me like a 'have a go DIYer' knock yourself down a peg or two will you. I have currently started working for myself and wanted to know where I stood on fixing boilers and how far I can go with them. I know I can't touch gas and I don't fix anything I'm not competent with. I have actulay phoned Gas Safe and asked them and I have been told I can work on PCB's and fans, just not gas pipes and valves. I'm going to get this verified agian to make sure. But that was all I was after, and not to be moaned at by the dinosaurs on here.

    Have a nice day!!!
    So if we turn this around, are we also saying that a domestic qualified gas fitter is Ok to work on non-domestic installations? I don't think so. I recommend you do the ACS changover for domestic with your CEN1 then you will be compliant. So agree with you Adam, thats the practical way forward.
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    The other day i needed an operation but my doctor was busy so i went to the vets, after all if you can operate on one animal then its got to be all the same meat and veg.
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    If we [GSR engineers] don't do all the safety checks on the appliance when repairing, & an incident happens afterwards we'll be taken to task !!!
    But, if you read the bulletin.......

    http://www.gassaferegister.co.uk/PDF...0appliance.pdf

    Maybe when changing a pump...... we can wear our plumbers hat.

    I think not!!

    I wish Gas Safe would get these issues sorted out with the Government/Health & Safety & make it that only GSR engineers can buy gas appliances & any associated parts, & therefore be the only people to be qualified to carryout the work.

    It could be so easy, use the registration number & password when purchasing at plumbers merchants, [they all use computers] Gives traceability....
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    how would you even legally get PLI to cover work on gas appliances without being qualified?

    Putting a gas appliance back into a working state and not being competent to check the applaince is safe to leave working, try explaining that one to a judge or a family member of the person who has died as a result, even if it was not something in your control.

    my personal opinion is there is no grey area, and furthermore no reason not to be gas safe/qualified if you want to earn money doing the job. We (GSR engineers) have to pay for all the training and fees involved so why would anyone think we would think its ok for some not to bother? jog on. Im sorry you dont like the answer.

    Why any customer would after you have explained to them your not qualified let you try and fix there gas appliance is another baffling question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adam84 View Post
    In technical terms to work on a fan, pump or pcb you would have to take the cover of the boiler and that is classed as being gas work. If you have commercial gas qualifications enrol at your local technical college to do the change over course from commercial COCN1 to CCN1 Domestic and the CEN1 qualification then you can register with gas safe legally, what you have to remember is that the gas industry is a legal mine field so it is better to pay a few hundered £ than risk a fine of thousands. Just my 2c.
    am a bit confused ??? someone on here said its only if you remove the combustion cover ??? tho i do agree with you adam

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    In short, if you want to do domestic work, get the tickets and the registration, same goes for commercial. Why should you get a free ride when we have to pay for both domestic & commercial training, updates and registration. Professional engineers should not be looking for loopholes & shortcuts, they should be upholding the standard of the industry. Cant afford it? Then save up and be legal. Time spending money goes quicker than time in the jail.
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    you cannot work on any gas appliance even in your own home without gsr qualifications because a gas explosion in your property puts other people and properties at risk

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